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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by rebecca, 2005/09/22.

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    rebecca Contributing Member

    rebecca Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Christer,
    Your assumption about my optical drives being D: and E: is correct, and I understand the rationale for changing them.
    My present F: drive shows up the way your D: and E: drives do: a green outline all around, with a blue bar across the top (within the green outline).
    So I'm going to assign new letters to my optical drives, reboot, change my F: drive to the letter D:, reboot, and then format the D: drive - then I'll post back to let you know how it went (unless you'll be asleep by then, in which case I'll check back with you tomorrow).
    THANKS!
     
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    I'm glad ...... :) ...... that You picked up post #40 before acting on post #39. That makes it a bit easier.

    I'll be around for another hour or two ...... :cool: ...... !

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    Wow, rebooting twice with my old computer would've taken me close to 10 minutes - with the new one, my newly re-lettered D: drive is already formatting!
     
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    Rebecca,
    You seem to enjoy this ...... :p ...... so, to wet Your appetite, I have attached another screenshot with my second harddisk started. As You can see, it is another extended partition with two logicals. I use it in an external mobile rack which can be powered off and the harddisk physically removed for safe keepeing.

    I use it for backups. F: holds backups of my gata on D:. G: holds Ghost Images of C: which enables me to restore C: in less than ten minutes if disaster should strike.

    What do You have on E:, You might ask. Well, I have copies of the most important Ghost Images. That way, I can restore the system, whichever harddisk dies on me!

    I don't know if You have discussed moving data off C: to D:. I'll compose a short post on that in a few minutes.

    Christer
     
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    Hi Christer,

    I have two internal drives and two external.

    Do you think there are any advantages to using the drive racks the way you do as opposed to havng drives connected via USB - I have two and shutting them down makes them invisble to the system.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Lol, Christer, you're right: I do enjoy this stuff, despite the butterflies it sometimes causes in my stomach.
    I'm thinking about maybe adding the hard drive from my old computer as a second hard drive for my new computer, but I have to see if I can figure out how to tell if the old drive is still "good" - as mentioned earlier in this thread, I've had all sorts of trouble with the old computer, some of it related to WinME, some to just bad luck with what appears to have been a Dell "lemon ". Not sure how to tell if any of the problems might have actually been due to hard drive issues...
    Thank you for anticipating my next question, which was going to be how to put my data on my new D: drive rather than C: I'm definitely going to be using Firefox; haven't yet decided between Thunderbird and Outlook Express. Never created an address book outside of a mail program before...
    Anyway, I've been sitting at these computers all day - I need to go eat something, and you need to get some sleep. At least the formatting of my new D: drive was successful (file system now shows as NTFS), so as far as I'm concerned, today has ultimately been a success.
    I'm going to call Dell again for help with reinstalling drivers, seeing as they volunteered to do that with me -- these will go on C: drive with my OS, yes?
    Can't thank you enough for your patience and help here today! Thanks for the second screenshot, too... looks like I might be venturing into that territory myself in the not-too-distant future!
     
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    Hi Charles!

    My old steam driven BOAC has USB 1.1 only. I only use USB for my scanner and printer and I believe that USB 2.0 would have made them faster. For harddisks, USB 1.1 is definitely too slow so in my case, an external mobile rack is the only option.

    In Your case, with USB 2.0, I believe there is no difference in performance but I honestly don't know.

    Operating from DOS, e.g. running Ghost from Ghost Boot Disks, have performance problems with USB. The "Ghost" driver is an "Iomega USB driver for DOS" but substituting that one for a "Panasonic USB driver for DOS" helps. (There is a discussion on the subject over at RADIFIED Forums.)

    Christer
     
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    Hi Rebecca,

    I'm thinking about maybe adding the hard drive from my old computer as a second hard drive for my new computer, but I have to see if I can figure out how to tell if the old drive is still "good"
    One way to do that is to go to the drive manufacturer's site and download a disk diagnostic program.

    WinME just gets "old ", that was my experience and whatever Dell loaded on to your shipped system could also have played a part which is why as hard as this exercise turned out to be, it'll be worth.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Hi Christer,

    My system originaly had 1.1 as well - added a 5 slot 2.0 card just for the 2 drives. Obviously, Rebecca would't have to do that.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Rebecca,

    I was afraid of that ...... :p ...... I tried FF and TB myself a while ago but I'm back with IE and OE. I will try to juggle my memory on how I managed to move the folders to D:. It was something I did during the installation of the respective program so, hold Your horses!

    Yes, they will automatically integrate with the operating system on C:.

    Which drivers are "on demand "? Are they necessary? Does the computer run well with the default "Microsoft drivers "? (I've never owned or worked on a DELL so, I don't know if the drivers are necessary.)

    Right-click the My computer icon on the desktop, choose Properties > Hardware > Device manager > are there any yellow question marks?

    If not, specific drivers may not be necessary. Let's hope a DELL user chimes in.

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    Right-click the My computer icon on the desktop, choose Properties > Hardware > Device manager > are there any yellow question marks?

    If not, specific drivers may not be necessary.


    If no flags in DM, they're not necessary.

    Which drivers are "on demand "?
    There should be a cd that contains the drivers. If any needed, they can be installed from that.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    If either of you is still here, is there any reason/advantage for me to "divide" my D: drive (extended partition) into more than one logical partition (which is what I seem to have right now) before I go any further?

    Charles,
    Under Device Manager, "Other devices" has a yellow question mark in front of it. Sub-entries under that include Ethernet Controller, PCI Device, PCI Modem, SM Bus Controller, Video Controller, and Video Controller (VGA Compatible).

    I do have a "Drivers and Utilities" cd from Dell - do I just boot up the computer with it in the cd drive? Given my level of inexpertise, do you think I'll be able to identify the drivers to satisfy those yellow question marks? I prefer not to call Dell if I don't have to...
     
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    Hi Rebecca,

    is there any reason/advantage for me to "divide" my D: drive (extended partition) into more than one logical partition
    Unless there is a specific reason to do so, and in your case I don't think there is, I don't see any reason to divide D any further. Keep in mind that any added partition will add to any dialog about where to download, move, copy to/from, etc. Up to now, having had only one partition, you haven't had that extra step to take.

    For data, folders are the way to organize your stuff IMO.

    Wait to see what others have say though.


    Regards - Charles
     
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    Christer

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    Rebecca,
    You are heading for the thick muddy waters of tweaking ...... :eek: ...... !

    As I mentioned, to get a nice and clean installation of FF and TB but getting them to not create default folders is all handled during the installation of the respective program. It took a three page thread and the input from friends at the "Netscape and Mozilla" forum to get things sorted.

    Enjoy (?) reading Which one(s) should I choose, Firefox + Thunderbird or Mozilla Suite? but the interesting part is in post #28

    Christer
     
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    Hi Rebecca,

    About the drivers: Yes I would call Dell and have them take you thru the procedure. W/O seeing exactly what's on that cd, that's what I would do. Drivers are not necessarily easily unidentifiable by name.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    You insert the driver CD with the computer running. It will detect and autostart the CD (I think).

    Maybe the drivers are listed in the first screen. If there is a "Install Drivers" option or something like it, click it to find out what is behind it.

    Tell us what You find!

    Christer
     
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    Aw heck, guys, and here I was thinking I almost had things under control! Never occurred to me that Firefox and Thunderbird would have to be modified in order to have my profiles saved on my D: drive!
    OK, first things first - I'll call Dell and see if the drivers question is a 24/7 kind of tech support issue, or a 9-5 one. Then I'll get back to the FF and TB nightmares... :eek:
     
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    I'm sure that there is an easier way but then You will have to contend with unused default folders. I will have another look tomorrow!

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