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Boys & Girls.....we HAVE....a WINNAH!!!!

 

I am convinced that having both, at least for me right now, is the way to go.. They support each other. I say this based on subjective experience. And one thing most agree on---this appears incontrovertible--- no single antimal app can pick up everything and if you depend on only one you are nt being smart and prudent.

I made a thread here re an ad hoc, informal test of these two apps.

Now, I must focus on fixing my Flashplayer mess. That is why I came home.

 

I have anti-malware with my AV suite & I have Windows Defender activated. I understand what you are saying & I agree in many respects. Unfortunately MBAM was starting to worry me a bit. I tend to generally surf in K-Meleon with the JavaScript off anyway. It is very easy to switch it on & off just by pressing F7. I don't surf in Warez or pornographic sites & I am careful where I actually go online. I learned a lesson last year when I thought I was being clever surfing Russian news sites utilising SeaMonkey's translator. Unfortunately for me, I aren't actually that clever & I was informed by a Google page that my computer had become infected with malware & wouldn't let me translate any more pages. I ran a full Norton scan & then Spybot but found nothing. The next day I ran a full SAS scan & it found a trojan! I downloaded MBAM that very day & ran that as well (full scan). It found nothing. I ran MBAM for 13 months after that & although I am sure it is a very good anti-malware tool, its false positives & download mirror problems started to worry me. It did its job anyway, & I am grateful to it. I feel that I am well protected with what I've got now. Obviously you need to use what makes you feel safe & what works for you. I frequent security forums & some people have posted what security apps they have on their respective computers. One bloke had about four trojan scanners & anti root-kit apps. This was on top of all the other stuff he had. He even listed online scanners he used. Whilst I admire his sheer enthusiasm I think you can go a little OTT! Some of the guys on the K-Meleon forums openly admit to having no AV at all & just surf generally with the JS turned off. I wouldn't recommend this but I think we should look at malware threats with some perspective. I must admit though that I do like to check the F-Secure Weblog quite often.

 

Excellent, generous, interesting, post, Davezilla! Clapping smilie.

i am starting to worry now about mathematical probability re the inevitability of my getting something serious, given I never have. I hate living in fear.

I also used to sometimes visit Trend Micro's Housecall when I would get paranoid and creeped out. But it never found anything.

But having nothing.....or turning JS off as some strategy.....I think, not at all alpha male-heroic, I think it's just plain stupid.

Common, the Clint Eastwood species of heroic......is a joke. And your account of the Bring it On' Guys.....reminded me of those.

I like your proclivity to focus and gather data....and share those data for the rest of us.

By the by, when i came home just earlier and booted this restore to perfect now system, I got balloon message from Malwarebytes which has real time protection in the paid for version, saying it had blocked something nefarious.

I have learned here in my brief (but high RPM, lol) time here, esp via a post by Broni---databases are pivotal! I never got that before.

Let us all learn and share the morphing specifics of staying safe!

 

Thank you *blushes slightly*

That's the trouble with paranoia, after my encounter with the Balto-Slavic trojan I got a bit heavily into researching/trying security apps. I have learned a fair bit though.

To be honest, I think a lot of them just have old or slow computers & are maybe still on dial-up, so anything that slows them down even more, like an AV suite, is frowned upon. Also K-Meleon has an older version of the Gecko rendering engine & 'F7-ing' the JS is just a precaution. To be honest most of the sites I visit in K-Meleon are bookmarked & I know are safe so there is no need to kill the JS. KM has a good 'privacy tool-bar' although I don't usually have it displayed as part of the GUI. Anyway, I use Opera 10.10 virtually as much.

You have to remember that a lot of those guys on the KM forums are Europeans. I've drank their lager, so I know what they're like. I can't for the life of me understand why Europeans can't make a decent Bitter beer or Ale. Plus they drive on the wrong side of the road & often eat stale bread & jam for breakfast. I think we have to accept cultural differences...

Thanks, I think it is important to share information about security. I just wish I was cleverer. My brother is a software engineer & I'm pretty sure he dreams in binary. Most of this is way over my head. On the bright side, he lives in the south of France & they have about 10 centimetres of snow there at the moment. I don't think they've ever seen it before!

I hope it wasn't anything serious. This is the Conficker Eye chart test.

Si vis pacem, para bellum!

 

Humility in humans, is, for me, as attractive as arrogance is the opposite.

Sooo, what you really mean, is, that's the inherent upside purpose of paranoia! Issue is, to find the fine line between healthy fear leading to a healthy journey of data-gathering, and being held hostage by terror that paralyzes. You....are about the former; that is Good!

Never occurred to me! But makes sense!

Adorable. Also loving.

U bet, we are all in this together.

Not to cross the line from attractive humility to self abrogation!

One can only pray the Brie din freeze. That would not be NICE (As in Canne & Nice.)

Thanks for the link! Re "serious," it's all pretty serious, but the issue was, precluded by the app. Lets you know getting the app was a good thing.

Leetle too much like Mr. Reagan and pathetic W & Sun Tzu in the 6th century BC for my taste.

I think of it more as earning enlightenment over time in a noble struggle to preserve health and fend off pernicious. Not the same, exactly, as preparing for war. Tho also no way turning the other cheek masochism, I mean look at the poor Tibetans!

 

Just did.

 

Am I right that that was re the Tibetans and so pithily adorable?

Cept not much adorable about that actual situation.

Also, Richard Gere, et. al., notwithstanding....why I am not a big fan of the Dalai Lama.

 

Well, I try to use Brain.exe as much as I can without worrying.

I know who Sun Tzu is (I think he lived next door to Basho & Lao Tzu), not so sure about this Reagan bloke. Wasn't he in the 'The Sweeney'?

I thought it wasn't a bad analogy. In a way, we are at war with malware. It's more like a 'Cold War' of espionage I suppose. Perhaps MI6 will lend me one of those Aston Martins with an ejector seat & machine guns or something...

...can't see it removing a trojan from my hard drive though somehow.

 

Sorry, only now saw yr last post.

Can you email a how to re that last part in some attachment? The without worrying part? Only downside to my having joined here is I worry now more than EVER. Cause I read threads. I see things to me, unimaginable re misery-making puter messes. I think I could not survive some of those.....so am soo grateful now, I have somehow managed to learn to keep my systems relatively OK.

Totally, that's the guy.

EXCELLENT. Maybe we need moles. moles are adorable.

Speaking of which, I just Googled and learned something fabulous and OK, arcane, but Jilly LIKES arcane...tho not as much as learning in general:
Moles are not rodents; they belong to the group of mammals known as Insectivora, and thus are more closely related to the shrews

Are shrews shrewd ya think? So maybe we don't need the moles for the espionage, we need the shrews, right?

U put one in a little nest on special shrew PCI board in the tower. End of story.

 

Don't worry, recently I've had hub (router) problems, apparently my broadband connection is fine & the British Telecom hub needs to be unplugged & restarted from time to time as it is 'rubbish' or something.

Ermm... Brain.exe is a bit of an Internet in-joke on the Mozilla forums. It just means that you should use your (actual) brain while online. If I had a brain though I may have chosen a different ISP to British Telecom. I mean we (the British) invented the electronic computer, radio, television, the jet engine, the industrial revolution etc, yet apparently we can't make a decent router.

Yeah, whatever happened to violent television, Ford Consuls & flared trousers? I'm glad I am young enough never to have had to have worn flares.

Jasper Carrot had a sketch about moles. He's quite funny for a Brummie.

I thought arcane was Windows 95, or is that archaic? I know rabbits are lagomorphs. I blame the Normans (they introduced them).

Earth to Jilly... Oh **** its -5 degrees & snowing again! I may move to France with my brother (not Paris though as they have hailstones bigger than Premier League footballs).

 

Yep...I intuited this and have been deeply concerned. The ongoing need to to reset this...over there across The Pond, is cause HUB rhymes with PUB????

First, there is a world of difference between flared and boot cut. I am going on the record to say.....I will only wear bootcut low riseers. When the Fascist Fashion Police came forth and pronounced no human female was allowed to wear other than skinny jeans---not long ago..... Jilly stood up. Nobody with style is ever vicitm of the Fashion Police. Were we meant to be sheep we would not have toes.

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Boy I LOVE IT HERE!!!!

No need to allow those stones to preclude yr moving to The City of Lights! They used to have to do surgery for those I read, but now they use sonic waves to break those up!!! See? yet agian, technology to the rescue!!!!

 

Possibly. I know British Telecom rhymes with Incompetent Twalleys (well it should). The 'official' explanation is that it builds up a static charge which needs to be released by re-booting the hub or something. I'm an arts graduate not an idiot! Still, it worked & I can log on to Windows BBS.

I'll stick with my Italian suits & the occasional Dunn & Co sports jacket with trousers (turn-ups maybe, but definitely no flares). I think that if the Fashion Old Bill try to feel my collar I have an alibi.

Paris is out, the plumbing is bad, I don't particularly like lager.

 

That gets a Ten for Trenchant.

And the real explanation is that when nobody is around, the Hub goes Pub crawling-siiding on the rug just to act out... thus building up the static.

Serious comment: could it be that something in the device is not grounded? Sounds as if, to get these cheap devices they've foisted on their clientbase, they cut a deal with someone employing 7 year old slave children in some basement in a third world country.

While I was only addressing jeans....Italian suits have abject FLARE having nothing whatsoever to do with the width of a pants leg.

Tant pis.

 

At least!

Maybe.

My brother, the software engineer explained it to me. Unfortunately all I can remember of what he said was something about BT piggy-backing other networks or something & packet switching or turnip swapping or something. After a while all I could hear was white noise. I don't really know that much about computers, I was impressed with myself when I copied a UK English dictionary into K-Meleon's spellchecker from SeaMonkey 2.0 & it actually worked. In fact, I can choose whether to spell in US English or UK English with it now! Noah Webster has a lot to answer for in my opinion. How dare he standardise the (American?) language a hundred years before the OED could the English! Conversely, why were the OED such slackers in the first place? They seem to be a bit like British Telecom in that respect...

Other people have informed me that they have been advised by BT to unplug their respective hubs & wait about 60 seconds & then re-start it. Strangely, it actually does work.

Pants? That means underwear to me. You mean 'trouser leg'. (also 'pants' means rubbish in English slang )

There is an interesting idiomatic English expression that's politely referred to as 'extracting the urine', although more graphically as 'taking the Pis*'. But I am not sure why this has suddenly popped into my Brain.exe.

 

Bingo. And the very essence of ignoble and sleazoid it is! SNEAKY MONKEYS!.

Short term gAINby whatever means necessary, the end justifies the means....Gettin Over....as we call it here....the most wrongheaeed way to go in any life arena.

Inevitably leads to geting hoisted by their own petards.

Delicious! And remember, language is not static. It is a living, pulsing, metamorphosing entity! Goggllng is now a verb in most new editions. Not to mention much of the richness generated by the luminous, creative humans considered disenfranchised....from which milieu we also get much of our fashion.

Chaucer, eat your heart out.

As per Tennyson: "The old order changeth, leading place to new, and God fulfills himself in many ways, lest one good custom should corru0pt the world. "

Not strange, it's simply resetting the modem by divesting it of its charge, and so corruption. Not unlike rebooting fixes memory leaks and other things. Tho your sleazoid device, it seems, is inherently corrupt. Raise the issue it in Parliament. Will be in the tabloids the next day.

Need I remind you, while we in the US of A are larval and vulgar and lacking in all manner of nuance....we did win THE REVOLUTION?

Why it popped up is moot. The above=precious confirmation that your decision to not move to The City of Lights.....is just.

 

A/ That sounds painful.

B/ Good.

Yeah, with all his antiquated subjunctive inflectives & odd third person present indicatives...which maketh him a pain in the jacksy to readeth.

Yes, but I do love The Lady of Shallot.

Wow! I understood that. Thanks, I'll remember that & impress my brother with my new found knowledge.

I only need to re-start it about 2 or 3 times a year so I suppose it isn't that big a deal. I'd write to my local MP but I'm an anarchist. In which case I may have to write to the lead singer of Echo & the Bunnymen. Dear Mr Echo...

It's not my fault you drive on the wrong side of the road & don't play cricket then. (cricket is a bit boring though)

Some of my ancestors fought Cromwell in the Civil War. I think their hair was too long to join the New Model Army.

I'm just not that fond of soufflé I guess.

 

Well, I regret to say, I am in a rush and SO, can not properly honor-respond to individual parts of the above as every part deserves.

I will simply ask when we might go on the road with all this luminous happy?

We can work out which SIDE of that road in the contract.

Anarchist my butt. Anyone capable of and moved to this kinda celebration....is a Romantic and filled not with rage....but joy.

 

That's OK. That's the 21st century for you. I'm still a bit ambivalent about it as century. It might get better. My money's on the next millennium.

Well, we are already on the information superhighway.

OK, remember, you say tomato, we say tomato...

I think admitting to liking Tennyson's poetry was a bit of a give away wasn't it?

 

Award wining understatement. Tho works back to if the Italian suits have side vents or back vent.

Pls check yr PMs.