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xp that much better and why?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by saphir, 2002/04/11.

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  1. 2002/05/22
    Zephyr

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    My MBA is kickin' in here...

    aruzinsky, you have struck the nail squarely on the head!

    It's not mere coincidence that XP will not recognize certain hardware and certain software. It was well contrived to eliminate the older machines and software and stimulate the market for the cutting edge. Forget backward compatability, there's no money in doing that.

    I have no qualms about trying to defeat any restraints they slip into the software without telling me about it, until I attempt an install. When they don't print the EULA prominently up front on the package, so I could decline the purchase, the rest of of it is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. After the point of sale, I'm producing the script and since it's my creation, I'll interpret any warnings as I see fit. They can "bite me" unless they get their stuff together and inform me up front.

    Any good Eli MBA will be happy to represent you in a copyright violation case on this issue.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. 2002/05/23
    KenKeith

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    An interesting feature with XP is the Program Compatibility program. A utility routine that is purported to run most legacy apps on XP. I had problems with a specifically written Win95 Grandmaster Chess game when installed on ME. Works very well with XP!

    Although there is not much money to present new releases with universal adaptivity to all prior apps (if possible), there certainly is a motivation and an effort to maintain goodwill and establish loyal customers. It seems to me the incompatiblity problem is inevitable and has more to do with a phase out than a planned absolence that is intended to gouge the customer.
     
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  4. 2002/05/24
    KenKeith

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    Referring to a planned absolence, a corolary to my previous post, and to put the matter in a business perspective, wouldn't it be more rewarding monetarily for a company to release a product that would be consumed by a larger customer base and not just restricted to an XP platform?

    I am trying to understand how forgoing the short- term profits for a long-term gain that is practical in this situation. The product goes at $2500.00 a pop, but still, I can't believe any software product regardless of price can benefit by restricting the customer base.
     
  5. 2002/05/25
    KenKeith

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    Quote:

    "It's not mere coincidence that XP will not recognize certain hardware and certain software. It was well contrived to eliminate the older machines and software and stimulate the market for the cutting edge. Forget backward compatability, there's no money in doing that. "

    There is merit to that comment and generally true for almost any component of an industry although I have reservations with "well contrived to eliminate... ". But with some curosity and to get an understanding of the Visual Studio progams, I found it is applications that are designed specifically for a market segment to take advantage of the system features associated with later operating systems.

    That's progress, and applications evolve and are phased in and advance as technology advances. That sequence of events is not my understanding of the phrase "planned obsolence" which has a negative connotation.

    Regards, and you all enjoy the holiday and don't forget seatbelts if you are driving.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I just read the whole thread with interest, there were a lot of diverse wiews on xp, allow me to share mine with you.
    I have an HP Pavilion zt1151 notebook which came with xp home, and a lot of other **** too (oh yeah and 9 disks, 3 of which were restore)

    I was immediately impressed with xp's looks, feel and performance and I honestly thought "my god they got it right this time" however the bubble burst with some long term usage I find that I have do use defrag and disk cleanup a lot more often, Its also quite hungry in terms of memory and disk space.
    and then there was the feeling, you know the one if you are in a crowded room and you feel someone is watching you but you cant see who it is!
    (Please guys its just my opinions and observations, so dont label me as paranoid)
    and yes I have a good firewall, I use spyware scanners and update my AV paterns daily.

    I tried (admittedly) installing a "special" corporate version of xp pro but it was all still there (feelings and all) with little or no noticible performance gain.

    I have also tried installing legal (owned & licenced to me, but unused) versions of windows 2000, 98 and nt4 sbs4.5 but there was no driver support for some functions on the notebook.
    (However no strange feelings of being watched were felt)

    I have also tried lindows, that lasted 3 hours and went to the bin YUK!!
    Linux, oh hell yes, I have tried mandrake 9, red hat 8, debian and gentoo (the last 2 were for the more advanced user)

    I now use (Dual booting of course) mandrake 9, I get all the apps I need including 2 very excellent suites, and when problems are found (like windows its NOT perfect) they have fixes released usually within 24 hours (massive plus point) rather than having to wait for a patch or service pack which can sometimes take ms a while (granted they are a very big comapny).

    Windows xp has many functions and features that linux just doesnt and probably wont ever have.
    I still like xp & im back to using xp home (dual booting as above)
    But i dont feel as comfortable or as safe as I did in a well configured version of nt4 or win98.

    PS. I only use xp for web and mail now (**** winmodem) I do all my work from linux, and when I get my wireless nic's out of the boxes and configured for ics, I might drop windows all together.

    So endeth the sermon from the REV Rad Penny

    I have tried to be objective and not bash ms, but sometimes people read things differently from what was intended.
     
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