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Windows 98 seriously dead HELP

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    I have been running 98 and it has had a few problems recently. and now it has died. I have all origional disks so would like to reformat the hard drive and reinstall windows. tried to put boot floppy in be fore turning on but nothing happens. cant even get to desk top anymore not even in safe mode it gets so far then crashes and reboots. anyone out there who can give me step by step instructions on recovery:confused:
     
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    Hi Stitch - again :)

    You sure do have problems.

    Seems like your BIOS is not set up to boot from the floppy - or you are not using a boot disk.

    Go into the BIOS and check that the boot order to Floppy > Hard Drive

    If you need a boot disc go here
     
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    windows 98 seriously dead

    the boot disk i have came with the computer and says boot disk on it. and where do i get into the Bios.
    Please
     
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    Depends on your particular mobo/BIOS

    When you first power up the first (text) screen which appears often says - at the bottom of the screen -

    To enter setup press ............... You must do this as soon as the first screen appears - or the pc beeps - whichever is sooner.

    Favourites are 'Delete' and F1 . If none of these work try some of the other F keys.

    If you have a mobo manual the info should be in there.
     
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    windows 98 seriously dead

    ok i now have a blue screen with 13 different items on it starting with standard cmos setup to exit without saving which do i chose then
     
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    windows 98 seriously dead

    :( :( :( please someone help im running out of time
     
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    Stitch,

    In the Advanced Setup you will find the order of your boot sequence. Use the arrows up down to get to the sequence and the page up and down arrows to change the sequence
    of each. First you need the first boot device to be the FLOPPY
    second should be the IDE 0 and third should be CDROM
    4th should be try other boot devices.

    Once thier in that order hit escape and then hit f10 to save your changes. Once changes are saved puter should go right to booting up in that order. make sure your floppy boot disk is in and it should boot to the A: to let you into fdisk and format

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    Hi Fire Dancer

    I cant see anywhere on the screen where it says advanced set up

    These are my options
    Standard smos setup
    speedeasy spu setup
    bios features setup
    chipset features setup
    pnp/pci configuration
    load set up defaults
    intergrated peripherals
    supervisor password
    user password
    ide hdd auto detection
    save and exit setup
    exit without saving
    which do i chose
     
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    Stitch,

    What type of puter do you have? Can you tell me what is in IDE HDD auto Detection with out making any changes? And what does your boot disk look like? is it a floppy or a restore CD?

    Post back

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    Hi Fire Dancer

    computer was built for me be a small local company so im not sure as to the actual make.

    the boot disk is a floppy that came with the comp it has microsoft boot disk written on it windows 98 series and i also have a 98 cd rom origional and a windows starts here cdrom origional.

    i put the boot disk in the floppy drive and rebooted but nothing happened it would get to the options for normal mode or safemode etc then crash and reboot itself. the floppy drive did nothing. usually you can here it fire up
    any ideas
     
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    Stitch,

    What happens if you put either one of the CD's in and re boot?
    I am thinking that maybe your boot disk is bad or your floppy drive is going bad. These are just a few ideas to start with I am sure that we will get it going somehow so dont fret ok be paitent and clam as sometimes these things take a little time to figure out.


    I want you to go back and look in your bios feature setup and tell me if you see in there a listing of boot devices. Just look though make no changes and post back. Also PeteC suggested this site for a new boot disk go here and make a new boot disk for win98

    http://www.bootdisk.com/

    FireDancer
     
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    HI

    at the moment nothing i tried each one at a time and then both together. cd does start up but nothing happens. floppy doesnt make a sound. which reboot do i down load from that site as non say 98. (just spilt my cuppa on this one so proberbly wont work now anyway).
    in the bios set up under boot sequence i have different options
    A,C,SCSI
    C,A,SCSI
    C,CDROM,A
    CDROM,C,A
    D,A,SCSI
    E,A,SCSI
    F,A,SCSI
    SCSI,A,C
    SCSI,C,A
    C ONLY
    LS/ZIP,C
    DO I CHOSE ONE OF THESE
    other one that mentions boot is boot from LAN first disabled
     
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    Clearly your bios is not Award as we discussed elsewhere.

    On Bootdisk.com you need Dos - Windows 9x/Me.............

    and on the next screen either 98 OEM or 98SE OEM depending on your flavour of Win 98.

    These boot sequences are a little odd - no A, CD Rom, C so go for the first - A, C, SCSI - floppy > hard drive > SCSI device

    FireDancer - thanks for your support on this - I am busy on other things, but will keep checking back.
     
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    getting fed up now

    ok i have made a new boot disk and put it in and rebooted. i have now got it telling me a non system disk is in drive and to remove it and hit any key to continue
    i now have windows 98 start up menu on screen
    which option do i go fo
    normal
    loggeg(\bootlog.txt)
    safe mode (tried this just crashes and reboots)
    step bey step confirmation
    comand prompt only
    safe mode comand prompt only
     
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    does pentiun 2 ledgend v meen anything as to the kind of comp im using
     
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    PeteC,

    No problem always happy to try to help...

    Yes his sequence seems odd or perhaps a bit old I was going to suggest he try A,C,SCSI as it seems his only otion for the A to boot first.

    Stitch,

    Go into your bios set up and choose the above sequence, again make sure you have a good boot disk for win98 inserted in floppy, then set bios to the mentioned boot sequence. refer back to my instructions on saving settings.

    Once change is made I belive you need to hit escape and then save and exit. Once changes are made and saved puter should start boot process with floppy in. First go to the site PeteC and I posted for you and make a good DOS-Win9x/ME
    amd follow the instructions givin at the site.

    Post back,
    I will be away from keys for a bit but will check back in a while as I am sure PeteC will as well.

    ~FireDancer~
     
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    right
    now i have made a second and third boot up disk from the site sugested and nada nothing zip caput grrrrr grrrrr. every time i put it in the comp and reboot it comes up with
    Non-System disk or disk error
    Replace and strike any key when ready.
    have i done anything wrong when down loading from site. I just asked it to save it to floppy and then put the floppy in the naff computer. doesnt like it one bit. by the way im female not male. dont confuse that with thinking im a bit thick (actualy i proberbly am when it comes to bios, dos and the inner workings) but im a wiz at problems in office programs.
     
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    Hang on in there - it's always difficult at distance to know exactly what's going on :)

    Pentium 2 Legend - that tells us you have an Intel Pentium 2 processor - so the PC is 'really' old - not that that makes any difference.

    Don't know why your boot disk will not boot. If it is saying that a non system disc is in the drive then the floppy is trying to boot the PC.

    Try your tea stained MS disk.

    If that doesn't work go back into the bios and set the boot sequence to CD Rom, C, A (remember to Save on Exit) and try booting with the CD in the drive. It may not be bootable - I am sure that 98SE is bootable, but not sure about 98.

    I'll be back.
     
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    Hi again Stitch,

    We do not think your thick!!! :) anyways... system disk error sounds like it is not seeing what it needs to see for the particular OS you have which is???? Win98/Win98SE

    When you choose which disk you need at bootdisk.com
    you need to download it to a folder.. once it is in the folder
    you need to insert a clean floppy into A: then double click on the file in the folder and it will write what you need to the floppy.

    Did you get the boot sequence changed as we suggested?

    Waiting to hear back

    FireDancer
     
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    Great thinking, FireDancer - must admit I went no further than the second page on BootDisk.

    Have done so now - yep! - it's an exe file

    Fingers crossed :D Should work now.

    How goes it, Stitch? Stay with A, C, SCSI boot sequence.
     
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