web pages not fully loading - Moz/FF

Westside,

Yea, funny how things happen.

Guess i could try ZA 5.5 freeby. The one i have is much older and updates have
expired plus i dont plan to re-purchase.

savagcl

 

Ah, Ha!

I removed the old ZA including any leftovers in the registry and installed the free
one (5.5). Things seem to be clicking along nicely now (only tested with
Mozilla tho. Will do FF soon.

Westside, good advice to get the latest version as a freeby.

thanks,
savagcl

 

Mozilla is good, FF still dont finish loading. So i guess its some
setting i have in FF (or something i dont know about it).

info only,
savagcl

 

Have you tried different times of the day? I found that Firefox is as fast or faster than any suite, but there are many ifs, like the themem the number of bookmarks, Tabs, etc. But, I never see FF loagingly incompletely.

 

Common ZA problem

Read the whole thread. The page load issue is an often reported problem in ZA Forums with versions after 4.5 (& 4.5 is no longer good because of security vulnerabilities). Shutting ZA won't even always cure it without doing a clean install due to ZA entries in the LSP stack. Here are some things that solve it or help:

Even if you're not using IE, make sure your IE security is set to Medium (not High & not customized). If using any ZA Privacy features (other than Mobile Code blocking), be sure you are not using anything else that duplicates the functions (decide on the 1 you prefer).

Personally, I only use the Mobile Code blocking in ZA Privacy. I use the PrefBar extension & Netscape settings for privacy features.

Note that these problems with ZA are always reported by broadband users! It is more common if you have any other non-MS software using the LSP stack.
If you still have a problem, download the free Lspfix.exe from cexx.org
You can safely use it to reorder your LSP stack, but don't use it to Fix until you fully understand the directions & do a backup.

The free edition of ZA doesn't have all the Privacy features but still can cause the LSP problems. Plus most people start a free trial of $ ZA editions that revert after 15 days to free ZA if you don't subscribe/pay. If you had any ZA Privacy features in turned on at the moment it reverts, - it often leaves 'ghosts'.

The only complete cure for ZA problems is a 'clean' switch uninstall (not ADD/REMOVE). You need to run the uninstall path for ZA foolowed by a space followed by "/clean" without the quotes. ZA Forum Search will yield precise instructions including that sometimes the Target will only change in Safe Mode to add the switch.

 

Now, thats what i call "an answer "!

thank you, Marklet.
I have it copied and will apply soonest.

Appreciate it,
savagcl

 

I couldn't find any reference to Lspfix.exe at cexx.org. Do you have a link?

I have Optonline cable with a wired/wireless router, but use ZA 5.5 free as a software firewall. I use Firefox 1.0.1 with NO cache, and pages load very quickly. The aforementioned Bestbuy.com loads completely in less than two seconds.

PrefBar's "user agent" feature (supposedly loads poorly rendered pages in IE) is why I installed it to begin with, but I never could get it to work. Instead, I use Launchy, which works with both FF and Tbird, and works very well.

PrefBar has many features, but the only reason I keep it installed is because of its superb ability to remove background colors/wallpaper that make some webpages so hard to read ... cexx.org being a prime example.

 

Jim try this LSP Fix - download link

 

Thanks, Dennis ...

I don't know how the devil you ever found that, unless it was from a link on another site. I went through the cexx.org site with what I thought was a fine tooth comb, and never came close!

Ah, the light bulb flashes!! It never occurred to me to try a Google search, where it shows up as the first listing, duh!

(BTW, note the post # ... big one coming up next!)

 

Ah, the light bulb flashes!! It never occurred to me to try a Google search
I could see the flash from here.
Similar minds -- must be plugged into the same power grid.

and

Congratulations on that upcoming 1000th post.

 

Tada!!! Post #1000

To repeat: Tada!!! Post #1000!!!

Dennis ...

Funny that it should be you I'm responding to at this point.

I suppose I really should be posting to help some poor, lost, soul with a seemingly insoluble problem, but I can't seem to find one (other than myself ) at the moment. Besides, I want to put this momentous occasion behind me so I can go work on my income tax , which I've been putting off for far too long.

"It never occurred to me to try a Google search... "​

Remember the old adage about the forest and the trees? This was the reverse ... I got so involved in cexx.org's forest that I forgot to look for individual trees!

 

You're very welcome.

My view is that ZA is the strongest security, however it causes usability problems for too many people & has terrible official support (the User Forum is better but too heavily censored). Some with problems can reduce the severity enough to be usable; others can't. Sygate is the second best security. Neither ZA or Sygate are good for newbs who don't learn to use it & end up with less security, not more. Trend (& McAfee) firewalls are lesser security but much more user friendly.

 

Personally, I 'love' the PrefBar for many features. (I'll assume you're on the current version). I use it to quickly flip on many features I otherwise block if not whitelisted. I also don't block cookies as doing so is somewhat hype plus with some will stop or slow page loads. Instead a fast click on PrefBar cleans right after. On a profile where I want some cookies white listed & kept, I instead use the Cookie Culler extension.

 

Marklet,

I'm not sure what i'm doing here, this is what i got with the LPSfix software:

I ran it and it showed 3 dll's in the Keep side, nothing in the Remove side.
These 3 dll's are:

mswsock.dll tcpip
winrnr.dll NTDS
rsvpsp.dll (protocol handler)

Since i dont reconize any of those 3, well, maybe the first one, does this
mean that these 3 are messed up and need to be placed in the remove side
for the problem to be fixed?

I made copies of them onto another drive just in case.

thanks,
savagcl

 

Hi savagcl,
I know the Lspfix tool has helped many people with ZA problems, but I'm in no way an expert (or anything close) on the tool itself. I'd definitely leave the mswsock.dll alone & research the other 2 thoroughly before removing anything. Running Lspfix to reorder & then rebooting: does that first step help you at all with your problem?

You can also see more details of your LSP stack with the free Spybot's Advanced Tools. If an entry has a green check it's not malware but might be causing a conflict. If an entry doesn't have a green check it might be malware (requires research) and might be causing a conflict.

It's been quite awhile since I personally used LSPfix. I believe there's instructions/help at cexx.org site. I don't think you should remove anything with it that's not on the Remove side.

LSPfix usually works for reordering. The alternative can be very time consuming. That is to uninstall all non-MS programs that are in the LSP stack entries in Spybot & then 'experiment' with a grid of reinstalling them in different order & seeing the results. Of course that could take 'forever' unless the non-MS entries are very limited.

One more piece of info. Sometimes Spybot misses an LSP entry. Sometimes Adaware SE's free LSP plugin misses an entry. If you use both, you'll probably see all. An entry that one of these tools see & the other doesn't is a real good candidate for further research.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

 

Thanks Marklet,
I did run it (none removed), the summary didnt rename or reorder anything -
all 0.

I did post a msg over at ZA forms but dont expect much help from ther.

Guess i'll go do some more research.

Appreciate the help,
savagcl

 

You're welcome savagcl,

Did you try the other things I suggested besides using LSPfix? If yes, then you might want to switch to the free Sygate, but first you should only uninstall ZA using the "clean" switch method. For safety, reinstall any other ZA editions in the v5 series you used recently (1 @ a time of course), & then uninstall them using the clean switch.

Please don't follow any advice you might receive in ZA Forums to revert to v4.5 as that's a ridiculous way to keep Users with v5 series problems even after ZA acknowledges 2 security problems reported by researchers & affecting all versions prior to the most current v5. The primary point is supposed to be security. If that security interferes with usability, the proper resolution is another vendor (Sygate) at least for the time being.

 

I'll try the other things one at a time. Hopefully one will work.

Ha! If we went back everytime there was a problem, we'd all be sitting in
front of a cave rubbing 2 sticks together and scratching fleas...... No fear,
i won't go back to a known problem.

Sygate will be a final solution if no other presents itsself.

I never knew about the /clean switch so i learned something for future ref.

If/when i do get a resolution, i will post it here so others can be aware at least.

again, appreciate the help,
savagcl

 

I tried a fix from the ZA forum.
It seems to have fixed the default browser (Mozilla). All pages load fully.

Problem still present in FF tho. I know this is stretching a point but
why would ZA care which browser is used as long as i have given
permission to it???

Maybe a re-load of FF would fix it - thoughts?

thanks for all the support guys,
savagcl

 

Maybe make FF the default long enough to apply the fix?