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trying to go from win98 to xp using restore discs

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  1. 2004/06/28
    fonzbear2000

    fonzbear2000 Inactive Thread Starter

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    for sparrow...........

    at some point i tried to reformat (restore?)
    well, the 2 discs that came with my computer say "restore cd" on them but people i've talked to always referred to it as reformatting
    but i did, however, have the full version of windows98 so i tried that and it worked (so the CD-ROM drive WAS working?)
    ya but barely working-i was lucky that windows98 even got on here
    i recently got a new cdrom drive (why?)
    see above question
    but if i put my xp recovery (restore?) disc in and boot up
    see first question

    when put them in while fully booted, nothing happens
    disc 1 has a folder called drivers and the following files:
    autorun.inf, bootcat.bin, bootimg.bin, T4160.gho, windows.ico
    disc 2 also has a folder called drivers and the same files that are on disc 1-the only difference is instead of T4160.gho, it's called T4160001.ghs

    neither disc has a .exe setup type file which would allow me to reformat or restore or whatever you call it
     
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    fonzbear2000

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    another thing.........

    when i turn my computer on the cdrom light is the first thing to go on followed by the floppy drive light
     

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    markp62

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    I think you need some hands on assistance with your computer.
     
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    Okay, let me get this straight. You bought a portable computer with XP installed, and it came came with two recovery disks. You had trouble reinstalling/repairing XP, using those two disks, so you wiped out the OEM partition(s?) and reformatted the drive with a legit Win98 cd, and now the comp won't let you put XP on from the cds because you took out the tools they needed to run when you wiped out XP in the first place? Recovery disks are not the same as full retail upgrades or install disks. That's why they are cheaper! You did not mention a dual boot, you mentioned a repair. What caused you to dump the factory install in the first place? The bad cd-rom (no burner?) Do you have a product activation key from MS? Do you have a warranty?

    Open the autorun.inf file from the cd in notepad and see what it says.

    Johanna
     
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    fonzbear2000

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    i just wanted to reformat my hdd
    yes it was a burner actually-when my original burner was actually working and i was able to reformat/restore my computer using my 2 restore/reformat discs, it never asked me for a product activation key-it just went through the process and when it was done, i went through some setup proccesses but never got asked for a key-no i do not have a warranty

    i opened the autorun.inf file and this is what it says: ; Localized 06/23/2000 05:18 PM (GMT) 1:1.1.1 autorun.inf
    [autorun]
    ICON=windows.ico
     
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    Do not know what kind of restore CD you have.
    If you can find a folder named "i386" on the CD. You will be able to install XP from there.
    Just go to that folder and run the WINNT.exe file. Good luck.
     
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    Christer

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    Those two files are Norton Ghost spanned image files.

    Somewhere on the Restore CD, there should be a program called either ghost.exe or ghostpe.exe which should get started when the computer boots from the CD. With the proper command switches (not from You but from the Restore CD itself), it should restore the computer automatically.

    I know my ways around Ghost pretty well and would (probably) be able to restore the computer using Ghost Boot Disks and the image files on the Restore CD.
    If You know someone who is familiar with Norton Ghost, ask him/her for help!

    Christer
     
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    fonzbear2000,

    I think of formatting as erasing everything, reinstalling (actually, upgrading) as overwriting just most of the operating system files, and restoring as overwriting everything.

    A restore disk contains an image (= a binary bit stream, the T4160.gho) of the c: drive as it came from the factory. It does not format the drive, it replaces the contents of the drive, including anything that has been added since the computer was new, and afterward the drive is in factory fresh condition.

    There should be (have been?) a small partition on your HDD that contains a program to put the image file on your c: partition. I would go to msdos prompt (in accessories) and type:
    fdisk
    and accept the "y" (one or two) by hitting enter for each and then select 4 and see the description of the disk. Then "esc" out without doing anything else. Please tell us exactly what you see, including the percent(s).

    You should consider asking the manufacturer or dealer for help. Installing win98 has overwritten the master boot record (mbr) that came with your computer and contained the instructions (to the computer) to use the restore disks. That should be available from the manufacturer. Otherwise get the ghost boot disk(s) as suggested and hopefully you can restore XP with the program "ghost ", although with my ghost program I need an alphanumeric key to restore images I have made, and you apparently don't have that (it may just be for the program, in which case you'll get it with the disk).

    If you're interested, you can do a search for "ghost" on http://www.pricewatch.com/; I found ghost available for $9.00. (2000 edition, should work for you).
     
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    i see only 1 partition and it fat32 and the usage is 100%
     
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    You cannot format a volume larger than 32 GB in size using the FAT32 file system in Windows 2000

    When you attempt to format a FAT32 partition that is larger than 32 GB during the Windows XP installation process, the format operation fails near the end of the process, and you may receive the following error message:

    Logical Disk Manager: Volume size too big.

    i have windows 98-not 2000 or xp-if/when i get xp back on here it will be under the ntfs fileing system
     
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    our other computer has windows 98 with fat32 and a 40gb hdd
     
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    Mirror,

    In the context of FAT32 and WinXP, you're right since XP can not format a volume larger than 32 GB to FAT32 but wrong since XP can mount such a volume formated using FDISK.
    I believe that the harddisk was formated during the setup of Win98 and in the context of FAT32 and Win98, there is no limit. Well, there is a limit but much higher than that but I don't remember how high it actually is.

    You are however definitely right that something seems to be wrong ...... :D ...... !

    Christer
     
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    Right. You have an 80GB fat32 partition, and there is no sign of the program to run the restore CDs, so your only hope is to get the ghost program and hope it will place the contents of the ghost files on your HDD. If you have a friend who has the program that would be ideal, but it's really not difficult to run. You need to make a floppy fron the CD and run the floppy with the restore disk in the drive.

    Otherwise you'll have to buy an XP install or upgrade CD.
     
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    when you say make a floppy from the cd, do you mean a floppy from ghost ro from my restore cd?
     
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    i now have a copy of ghost installed-just not sure what to do
     
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    Christer

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    Start Norton Ghost and go to Ghost Utilities > Norton Ghost Boot Wizard

    Select to create a CD/DVD Startup Disk with Ghost. This will require two floppies.

    When the floppies have been created, exit Ghost.

    In the computer to be restored, put the first Restore CD in the tray and shut it down.

    Restart the computer using the first floppy, You will be prompted for the second.

    I'll be back to edit in further instructions when I have checked what it actually says.

    Christer

    Okey, I'm back!

    I have only worked with partitions, never whole disks but try this:

    Choose Local - Disk - From Image

    Image file to restore from - in the drop down menu, choose the correct CDROM drive and the correct folder and finally T4160.gho

    Select source .... - You should only have one option

    Select local destination .... - You should only have one option
    (If this option is greyed out, then ESC out and start over but choose Local - Partition - From Image.)

    Follow the rest of the prompts and when asked for the second span, insert the second Restore CD and direct Ghost to T4160001.ghs (if Ghost doesn't find it on its own).

    Good luck!

    Christer
     
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    Interesting. Mine (in nsw2003) only requires one! floppy.
     
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    Christer

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    It depends on which drivers are loaded on the floppy(ies). With the DVD/CDROM drivers two floppies are requiered, one to start the computer and another to launch Ghost.

    I'm leaving on a weeks vacation now ...... :) ...... and will have to bail out from this discussion but I'll lurk from other computers.

    Christer
     
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