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Resolved Solid State Drives vs Flash Drives

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by James Martin, 2013/12/17.

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    James Martin

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    Are there really any differences between the two (internally)?

    From what I've read, solid state drives (SSDs) share the same memory components as their flash drive brethren - except that SSDs may have better hardware inside.
     
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    this link from Seagate might help answer your question
     
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    I guess it's just a matter of time before I replace my new Seagate HD with an SSD. I'm waiting for the prices to fall. Remember how expensive USB drives used to be? I think I paid about $30 for a 250mb (doubles as an ink pen) PNY drive back in 2006. Wonder how long it will take for SSD prices to fall?
     
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    They've already fallen. In early 2007, when Samsung introduced its SSD it had a capacity of 32GB and a hefty price tag of around $1000. Current pricing for a 256 GB SSD is down to $150.
     
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    That ain't low enough. :D
     
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    Quote from Seagate article...

    Hard drives can take the data directly from the host and write it to the rotating media. In contrast, SSDs can’t write a single bit of information without first erasing and then rewriting very large blocks of data at one time (also referred to as P/E [program/erase] ).​

    I didn't know that. I thought old data stored in flash was overwritten by the new data. I guess that would make it harder for data thieves to steal personally identifiable information (or PII for short).
     
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    I think the easy way to remember is that flash drives typically connect via USB - meaning they typically are "removable" storage devices.

    SSDs are "permanent" storage devices that connect via SATA (primarily) interface (even if installed in a USB enclosure).

    @Arie - great SSD articles. I am glad you address the limited number of writes issue - or rather that it is no longer an issue with modern SSDs.

    In the past, I have moved my temporary Internet files folder location off the boot drive but no longer. I keep it on my SSD for best performance now. No regrets. But I quickly add, it is a decent sized 256Gb SSD for Windows, HW drivers, and applications only (no personal data files) with 190Gb free.

    I also left my PF on the SSD as Windows managed - also no regrets. It seems W8 is pretty smart about managing the PF when it sees it is on a SSD vs HD. I have 16Gb of RAM installed. Typically with a HD, Windows would recommend an outrageous amount of space for the PF - something approaching 24Gb. But with the SSD as my boot drive, Windows recommends just 5627Mb (5.6Gb) for the PF size but has currently allocated a miserly 2432MB (2.4Gb). :)

    With that in mind, I recommend letting Windows manage the PF in all cases - with the one exception being a temporary measure if critically low on disk space. Temporary until a substantial amount of space can be freed up, or more space is purchased.
     
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    James Martin

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    Thanks for all the input and links!
     
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    Wow, that's a great price.

    The 60Gb model is twenty dollars less, but the 120Gb drive is a better buy. Thanks for sharing that link, Doc.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    1) That small 2mm-thick plastic rectangle that comes with the 7mm-thick Kingston SSD is a shim that goes under the drive to make it 9mm thick . . . so that it will fit properly within the space where a normal 9mm-thick hard drive (spinner) resides in a laptop.

    2) Yes, that "2.5" To 3.5" Bay SSD HDD Notebook Hard Disk Drive Metal Black Mounting Bracket Adapter Tray Kit" is what you could use to mount the 2.5" Kingston SSD in a 3.5" drive bay. (With or without the 2mm-thick plastic shim).
     
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    James Martin

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    Thanks, Doc.

    I hope to get one soon.
     
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