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problem with ram card

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by poetink, 2008/08/24.

  1. 2008/08/27
    poetink

    poetink Inactive Thread Starter

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    No! definately not! :eek: . I unplugged the computer when I popped the 128 module out.

    No. The set of numbers I listed is what came up in everest while I had both modules plugged in. Was there only supposed to be on set of numbers for each? If not, or if so, that's the way everest listed those numbers.


    I see.

    Yeah, that's obviously the last resort. At least they claim to have a lifetime warranty on their products. I'll give them a call tomorrow after work. Thanks Rockster, and everyone else who tried to help me out here. You're all great! :D

    I'll post back again to let you know what the situation is after I call 4allmemory.
     
  2. 2008/08/27
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    Rockster2U Geek Member

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    No, there will usually be a couple of sets of numbers just as you indicated. I was most curious as to how Everest read your 64MB stick with and without the 128 present but I also wanted to see how the 128 spec'd out. Its a moot point now and was just a hunch I had that didn't pan out the way I thought it might.

    Your 64MB stick is quite fast at 3-2-2-5 and the 128MB stick is actually a piece of PC133 that is backwards compatable and will run as PC100. Similarly, your 64MB PC100 will run as PC66. A lot of memory will do that but not all.

    Keep us posted on how you make out. Sorry we couldn't be of more assistance.

    ;)
     

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  4. 2008/08/27
    poetink

    poetink Inactive Thread Starter

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    Really? Meaning quite fast for the time period it was made? Or quite fast period?

    Is it strange that that one is backwards compatible, but yet the new stick doesn't seem to be? How could that be? (or is that just the way it is?)

    I certainly will. And no problem about being of more assistance, it's because of my using this forum since 2002 that I've learned what I have to sometimes fix problems on my own.

    My past problems have always been either OS related or software related, only in the recent past have I started getting into messing with hardware, and it's something I feel I need to know, and the only way I'll learn is by asking you people on here. So even though the info here didn't work, at least I'll have a general idea of what kinds of things to look for in instances like this in the future if a similar problem ever crops up. :)
     
  5. 2008/08/28
    Rockster2U

    Rockster2U Geek Member

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    Without knowing anything about your 256MB module other than the fact that its supposed to be compatable PC100 SDRAM, there's not much that can be said. The fact that it was working for a while (?) and it no longer does, gives rise to a host of speculative questions. One shouldn't assume that its not backwards compatable but that is a non-issue - it has no bearing on your problem unless its not PC100.

    My comment about your 64MB stick being quite fast is a generalization. The first of those 4 numbers (3-2-2-5) is the CAS rating and that is actually slow. CAS2 would be the better (faster) rating for that particular measure of read time in cycles. However, the remaining 3 numbers are about as good as it gets for you class of memory - thus my generalized comment.

    Here is a quick primer that will probably do more to confuse you than to explain this, however its a good starting point towards understanding some basics and realizing that there are huge differences in individual memory modules within a given classification (i.e. PC100). Translation - not all memory is created equal.

    Regards,
    ;)
     
  6. 2008/09/09
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    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Hi poetink, HP computers usually use specific parts made for them to a price. I have played with a HP Pavilion 4403 comp which my wife purchased new. I replaced the original HDD with a 20G unit to give her more room to work in. I installed extra RAM as the original was only 32mb RAM. I fitted 128mb in the spare slot and had no problem. It was recognized as 158mb and worked OK for some couple of years when I decided to give her a speed up by installing 2 sticks of 256mb RAM. This is the MAX recommended for this comp. All worked perfectly. I can only suggest as previous posts that you RMA to your supplier and get a replacement stick. HP do quite often use REGISTERED RAM but there is no word of this in the Brio BA210 Manual and from checking you do seem to have the right RAM. Neil.:D
    ps. You will have to get BIOS update from HP and appropriate instructions if you want to update your BIOS. To get specs when you start comp > ESC (when LOGO screen shows) and press PAUSE BREAK immediately to retain view of screen. You should see current BIOS version displayed on screen. Once you have the detail you require, just press ESC and comp will start as normal.
     
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    poetink

    poetink Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the reply retiredlearner.

    I did go to the HP website to see if there was an update for my BIOS and I only saw the version I already have on this computer listed. This is the version currently on my computer: Phoenix BIOS 4.0 Release 6.0

    I still have yet to contact 4allmemory to try and get a replacement stick. :p

    I just haven't been able to set aside a few minutes to call them.

    I'm going to try contacting them tomorrow at some point.
     
  8. 2008/09/09
    poetink

    poetink Inactive Thread Starter

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    Just called 4allmemory a few minutes ago. (decided to put aside those few minutes I spoke of in my previous post). Very nice people BTW...

    I just have to send them them the old ram card and I'll be sent a new one.

    The man on the phone mentioned to me about the BIOS upgrade thing. I told him how I only found the version already on my computer at the HP website,

    I also told him that I went to the phoenix website where my BIOS was made, but I couldn't find a way to locate a correct (if any) BIOS upgrade for this computer.

    Does anyone know how I can possibly find out what the BIOS upgrade could be for my computer?
     

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