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Resolved power supply - Hec or OCZ?

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by topeira, 2010/01/13.

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    topeira

    topeira Inactive Thread Starter

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    hi guys.

    7 weeks ago my OCZ 600w power supply burned up and i sent it to a store here in istael for a fix up. they sent it to taiwan. ever since i havent seen my Power supply and the company in israel are saying they are not sure why the delay and that it's not really up to them and since its taking ages they offered me a substitute - a HEC power supplט of the same power - 650W.

    my question is -
    is the HEC PSU not recommended? it HEC a lesser company and should i wait for my OCZ to arrive, whenever THAT may be?
    or should i take the HEC now and forget my former OCZ PSU because the maker of the PSU doesnt say much about the quality of the product and i wouldnt notice a difference in quality or how long the product will hold?

    what's your advice?
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I had not heard of HEC until you posted the name - I suggest you read through some of the reviews here and draw your own conclusion.
     

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    The HEC power supplies seem to be decent units. There did appear to be some problems with delivered units being DOA that the manufacturer states were caused by rough handling by shippers. The manufacturer says they have redesigned the boxes the units are shipped in.

    These reviews are from NewEgg.

    Customer Reviews for hec ZEPHYR ZEPHYR650 650W Continuous @ 40°C ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    Customer Reviews for hec X-Power Pro 650 650W Continuous @ 40°C ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply

    I select my power supplies after checking this website. I am partial to Sparkle power supplies. I still have a 10 year old 250W Sparkle that has been used to temporarily power systems that require much larger units. My present build has been running a 350W Sparkle supply for two years now after a 400W Raidmax (Tagan model) self destructed.

    http://www.10stripe.com/featured/psu/brand.php
     
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    topeira

    topeira Inactive Thread Starter

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    thanks guys.

    it's that i have only 2 options here -
    1)wait for the OCZ that will arrive in 2 weeks and it's the same PSU i fried but fixed (not a new one)
    or
    2) get a 600W HEC PSU, which im not sure of it's quality. maybe u know more.

    so between these 2 options - what ddo u think i should do? get a new HEC or a fixed OCZ?
     
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    PeteC

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    I would say that a lot depends on whether or not the dealer is offering you the HEC without charge :) If no charge this review is very positive .....

    http://www.thinkcomputers.org/old/index.php?x=reviews&id=621

    The other consideration is can you wait another 2weeks (possibly more) for your old PSU to be returned and hope that it will be OK.

    It's your call - I can't advise one way or another. My PSU experience is mainly with Antec and Seasonic.
     
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    topeira

    topeira Inactive Thread Starter

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    naturally it's my call, no? i wouldnt expect you or aliens or a plant in my garden to make the decision for me since i dont think plants know much about hardware... :p

    anyways, thanks for the link though it's not that PSU i might be getting.

    i was offerend to take (free of charge) this PSU:
    HEC WIN+ 600 600W RETAIL
    and i might, if i insist enough, be able to take this one
    HEC 650DR-AT EPS 650W PSU RETAIL
    or another one that is more expensive (which is less likely that i will be able to convince the store to give me that one) is this:
    HEC Cougar650 650W RETAIL

    so again , my options are

    1) take the fixed PSU i had before by OCZ

    2) settle for this one - HEC WIN+ 600 600W RETAIL

    3) fight for HEC 650DR-AT EPS 650W PSU RETAIL or HEC Cougar650 650W RETAIL (which i might not get even if i will cry havoc) though this option is not too realistic.
     
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    The 600W OCZ units cost around $100 here. The HEC 600W units are half that. I would wait for the OCZ unit back or demand one of the higher rated HEC 650-700W units.
     
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    If you end up buying, I highly recommend the Corsair HX620. It is modular and I have been running it in my (overclocked) system for 6 months now with zero issues. I also had it in my previous system for about the same period.
     
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    I get you feel you have only certain choices, but how sure are you? I like Antec.

    Got amazing ATX one at fabulous price to upgrade this system. It wasn't modular....not at the price I paid, but I just cut off the needless leads i.e. those with tall SATA plugs...left some spare Molex plugs case I want a second optical drive, sealed the ends with liquid electrical tape, installed her and I was good to go.

    I even took pics of the surgery.:D

    No need to pay for modular if you are counting pennies.

    And after all, it's the engine of of yr system in a way.

    Not sure if the store in question carries Antec or not. One thing I do know, I would not take the "repaired" unit back.
     
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    Jilly

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    Now here's a fabulous puppy by Antec:

    http://www.google.com/products/cata...t=result&resnum=5&ved=0CCUQ8wIwBA&os=reviews#

    Great reviews, energy efficient beyond dreams, as is mine, quiet like a mouse.

    First review, the guy complains re too many wires. He should have done the SURGERY!

    They owe you, way I see it. I am not liking "The dog ate my homework" stuff (are they Lekud?;))... And they should think outside the box, pun intended!
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    Edit, FYI:
    http://www.dealitem.com/Products/hec Pro 600 600W.aspx
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    Addendum:

    Yes, I knew i would void the warranty by doing the surgery, mailed Antec to be sure, but I went ahead anyhow and never regretted it. I especially love the pictures.

    Feel entitled. The dog did not eat their homework.
     
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    Nor I. How often does a bad psu take out ones mobo, or other piece of hardware when it dies.
     
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    I just Googled. Seasonic is available in Israel. I was told they are the Best when I was hunting for my PSU......made well and use far less energy than most to deliver the power they do. (Tho so do the Antecs.)

    Can't find if the Antecs are available there.

    Why not ask these guys if they have as Seasonic to offer?
     
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    Double bingo. The Manhattanites agree.:cool:
     
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    Corsair HX620 is made by Seasonic :).
     
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    I had no clue....good info for him!:)
     
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    topeira Inactive Thread Starter

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    guys, thanks for the help. appreciated.

    but as i said - i will not go for another manufacturer since the company that gives me the warranty only has HEC at the moment. i need the PSU now.

    so u r saying that i should go for a better HEC than the repaired OCZ and that's what my friend also advised me.

    thanks for all the help. i think this case is resolved. :) i hope they can WILL give me a 650W PSU in the end.
     
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    PeteC

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    Please mark this thread as Resolved ....
     
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    topeira

    topeira Inactive Thread Starter

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    sadly this thread ain't resolved yet, apparently thus isnt marked as resolved.

    here's the thing -

    the company said they will not give me a PSU of over 600W by HEC, only 600W maximum since they say it's the same as OCZ and by the law they are obliged to replace my damaged PSU with an equivalent. they are implying the HEC 600W is equivalent to HEC 600W.
    now i know this is BS, but can you explain to me why that it BS so i can be more savvy about it if i talk to them again?

    also they said i can also get my fixed OCZ back.


    also, if they are obliged to supply me with an equivalent product is that equivalent in term of performance or cost? cuz the OCZ costs a lot more than HEC , of course.
    and performance - i know nothing about electronics so i dont know what reviews mean so i dont really understand how the OCZ PSUs are better than the HECs and i think that if i want to argue with the company i need to understand the basics.

    im just thinking that if a john doe had a 2000 liter BMW and he would send it to be fixed andd was offered a Mazda 2000 liters instead he would not have taken it. not he would have taken a BMW with spare parts in it as "fixed ".

    so if i dont go the extra mile and try and sue them or what not, what should i do -
    get the old but fixed OCZ or a new 600w HEC?
     
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    They need to give you a replacement that is equal in performance and worth. The OCZ is superior to the HEC unit.

    Did you own the OCZ for less than three years? If so they have a replacement program.

    OCZ 600W StealthXStream Power Supply


    hec Win+ power supplies

    It would help to know your system specs to determine what your power supply needs are.

    Adding System Specifications to your Profile
     
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