pc fan goes crazy when running scans

Hello to you mattman.

Thanks for that info on Intel Thermal Management and to say it went over my head is a under statement

Would it help if i posted a hjt log here to see if i can stop any unnecessary programs thats running? I keep my start ups/auto loading (04 lines) to a minimum -firewall,avg anti virus,spyware guard,site advisor,ctfmon.exe,WMPNSCFG.exe,iTunesHelper.exe?

I WILL get around to moving/cleaning my pc its like i said trying to get the wife off at the moment id need a crowbar, im getting the evil eye right now.

Cheers,
Sean.

 

Look in Task Manager as soon as you get to the desktop. Watch Physical Memory -> Available. If that gets low, Page File Usage will rise (and you will see a lot of disk activity because programs are being loaded from the HDD, then, because physical memory is low, excess is being stored as page file back on the HDD).

You can post a Hijack This log if you would like. I prefer to disable startup items from within their own programs, usually in Tools -> Options, rather than "blocking" them. Is there anything else appearing in the Notification (System) Tray?

Go through disk cleanup. Delete files and cookies from within the browser Tools menu. Reduce the size of the Temporary Files cache to, say, 50 MB (100MB if you feel generous). This should reduce the amount of checking done by the antivirus. If I find an antivirus seems to be "overly" checking, I uninstall it and if it is a download, download the latest version.

Do Error Checking (chkdsk) on the drive/s. Uninstall any programs you no longer use and do a defragmentation.

People have given me their computers because they are getting slower. Even though I cleaned them thoroughly and minimised the number of background programs, I still needed to increase the amount of RAM. As the system gets older, I think you will need to have sufficient RAM available (although the startup loading will still happen), the alternative is to reformat and be selective about what might be loading.
I am keeping a few (original) systems going by increasing the RAM, others I have reformatted and given them a "new lease of life ".
[Edit: Figures? For Win XP, a system may run happily on 256MB without too many background programs. 512MB as the system gets older. If you run programs that utilise RAM, 1GB]

Matt

Do a quick recheck of PeteC's information, it all seemed to be going in the right direction to me.

 

Good morning mattman.
Right mate here i go:-
I have reduced temp file cache from 120mb to 60mb
My local disc space is: Used=81.7 gb, free=211gb
I have run chkdsk Auto fix file system errors and scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors ( took one and a half hours section four)
i defraged on wednesday so i left that for now?
I ran disc clean up.....Not to much to delete as i use Ccleaner and atf
Her's some readings from task manager:-

Physical memory
Total = 1046956
Available = 566848
system cache = 631692

Kernel memory
Total = 1046956
paged = 78376
nonpaged = 18076

TOO RIGHT, im not in work today and i have told the wife i am going to drag the pc out and have a good old clean up...Petes been great in helping me out here

And a last thougt here is a hjt log for you to run your eyes over only if you have time please.
MANY THANKS,
Sean.


Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 07:48:50, on 24/08/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16512)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\Program Files\Comodo\Firewall\cmdagent.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SAService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\Program Files\Comodo\Firewall\CPF.exe
C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SiteAdv.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\WMPNSCFG.exe
C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgmain.exe
C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgbhp.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\MSNMES~2\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.co.uk/
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {089FD14D-132B-48FC-8861-0048AE113215} - C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SiteAdv.dll
O2 - BHO: SpywareGuard Download Protection - {4A368E80-174F-4872-96B5-0B27DDD11DB2} - C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\dlprotect.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin\ssv.dll
O3 - Toolbar: McAfee SiteAdvisor - {0BF43445-2F28-4351-9252-17FE6E806AA0} - C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SiteAdv.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Comodo Firewall] "C:\Program Files\Comodo\Firewall\CPF.exe" /background
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SiteAdvisor] C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SiteAdv.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [iTunesHelper] "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe "
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WMPNSCFG] C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\WMPNSCFG.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-18\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'SYSTEM')
O4 - HKUS\.DEFAULT\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTFMON.EXE (User 'Default user')
O4 - Startup: SpywareGuard.lnk = C:\Program Files\SpywareGuard\sgmain.exe
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {5D6F45B3-9043-443D-A792-115447494D24} - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/EN-GB/a-UNO1/GAME_UNO1.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/wuweb_site.cab?1156165100000
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1156165090984
O16 - DPF: {8E0D4DE5-3180-4024-A327-4DFAD1796A8D} - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsClient.cab31267.cab
O16 - DPF: {C3F79A2B-B9B4-4A66-B012-3EE46475B072} - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsPAClient.cab56907.cab
O16 - DPF: {F5A7706B-B9C0-4C89-A715-7A0C6B05DD48} - http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MineSweeper.cab56986.cab
O23 - Service: Ad-Aware 2007 Service (aawservice) - Lavasoft AB - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe
O23 - Service: Ati HotKey Poller - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: AVG Anti-Spyware Guard - GRISOFT s.r.o. - C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Alert Manager Server (Avg7Alrt) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
O23 - Service: AVG7 Update Service (Avg7UpdSvc) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
O23 - Service: AVG E-mail Scanner (AVGEMS) - GRISOFT, s.r.o. - C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
O23 - Service: Comodo Application Agent (CmdAgent) - COMODO - C:\Program Files\Comodo\Firewall\cmdagent.exe
O23 - Service: Google Updater Service (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: SiteAdvisor Service - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\SiteAdvisor\6066\SAService.exe

--
End of file - 6462 bytes

 

Good morning Petec.

Thats good to know

So now all i have left to do is give the pc a good clean(had a quick look at the back.......its ready) and see how it goes, ill post back how i get on.

THANKS,
Sean.

 

I have at last managed to get the wife off the pc, this new history web site she is working on takes a lot of her time its taken her over.

I have pulled the pc desk out and gave the grills a good clean at the back of the tower (where the mains plug plugs in) also i have cleaned the grills on the side of the tower, and yes pete/matt it was quite bad! I have now put the tower on the desk so i have easy access to be able to clean it

The fan at the back still spins when i run a scan using spybot, it was my daughters tenth birthday yesterday so i took her today to spend her birthday money.....a game for the pc and this also starts the fan up straight away.

I think you ALL have done all you possibly can with this one and its time to put it to bed, IF it gets any worse before christmas i will take it back to the shop.

PLEASE petec would you kindly write that script we talked about in that other post, like i said so i dont look a fool and you know what they are like trying to give you the knock back......(ONLY if you have the time).

MANY THANKS to everyone (especially Petec) who gave me all the brilliant help/guidence/and the new things that i have learnt in a way a numpty like me could follow

Cheers and good luck to ALL,
Sean.

 

Sean:

I just spotted this latest release and thought it might give you another reference point re: your voltages. It also does fan speeds and a few other things that may be of interest. You can find this little goodie here.

 

Good morning to you Rockster2U.

when i try to open it i get a message that says:speedfan has encountered a problem and needs to close. Its a shame because after reading what it does i think it would have helped me find out whats happening regarding the voltages.

CHEERS,
Sean.

 

I have just posted in removing spyware + viruses forum (i think ive picked up something)

Thought it best to tell you.
THANKS,
Sean.

 

Thanks Pete.

I thought it was my pc playing up.

Cheers,

Sean.

 

Hi all.

I really dont know if this has anything to do with the fan always kicking in, just thought id run it past you good folk ( i installed this update at the time of it coming out).

Could i uninstall it safely and see if my fan stops kicking when i run certain scans / playing games or should i leave it alone

THANKS to everyone,
Sean.

Re: Reliability Update (KB936357)?

Jen Larkin wrote:
:: "TJD" wrote:
::
::: Does anyone know about this (6/11/07) Microsoft update that is
::: supposed to improve reliability with Vista and Intel processors.
::
:: I would like to know the same thing. I just installed the most
:: recent patches and restarted my computer and a few minutes later
:: the emergency "keep it from overheating fan" turned on. (My case
:: has two fans.) I have never had that happen before and the fan
:: would not turn off without me powering down.
::
:: Is this hotfix to address that problem? Is it to address a
:: different problem, perhaps one that I haven't had? Is it to fix a
:: problem that is a mystery even to the people who write the
:: documentation?
::
:: Not only do you not give any details about the problem that it is
:: intended to fix, but it repeatedly uses the term "reliability
:: update" and has a link near the end that says to go there for more
:: information on the terminology. Of course, that term isn't listed.
::
:: This is a hot fix and thus is not included in windows update yet.
:: That makes it seem like it is an emergency. If it is an emergency,
:: TELL ME WHAT IT IS FOR. I am not your beta tester and I will not
:: install random hotfixes to my computer that come with
:: documentation that doesn't even say what it fixes.

It seems like it is supposed to be a "processor reliability update "
thing, as Intel never has any bugs or anything in their chips.

more posts about this update here:-
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=772709

 

Good evening to you pete.

sorry mate, but what do you mean?
Thanks,
Sean.

 

Thanks pete.

I already have windows updates set to:Notify, but don't automatically download or install, its just that i am one of those people who trusts microsoft to be safe and download all the latests updates

Pete when i go to uninstall the update i get a warning about a load of updates and installed progams might not work, i will type you all the things that might not work (i can't copy/paste them and there's quite a few) but its friday night and im going for a few sherberts with my mates, would it be ok to show you tommorow?

Cheers pete,
Sean.

 

Hello pete.

I have uninstalled that Reliability update and had no adverse effects, tried a spybot scan and the fan still kicks in, oh well it looks lke ill just have to put up with it.

Only if you have time, please could you write me a few words about this problem so i can give the shop a ring and see what they say.

MANY THANKS,
Sean.
Ps ..........hair not to bad