NS blocking newsletter?

I have not heard of NAV selectively removing any message, unless it contains spam controls, and you should be able to get your spam-labelled messages anyway. The reason why I decided to subscribe with my Yahoo e-mail address was because I did not want my ISP Spam Controls to come into the picture. But come to think I had ISP spam controls on with only one address.
Yahoo did treat the newsletters as "Bulk "=Junk=Spam, but I got them out of there with no problem. I received a total of seven, until I unsubscribed.

 

I'm getting more and more curious about why was NAV, if that's what was doing it, blocking that newsletter. Netscape wasn't putting it in the Junk folder, so is that proof it wasn't the one doing the blocking? And ordinarily NAV pops up a window when it's caught a trojan or virus. But with the newsletter, neither one of those programs was notifying me in any way that it had encountered a message it deemed dangerous.

I suppose I shouldn't fuss about it now that at least one newsletter issue got through today, but I wish there was a way to configure whatever program needs it, to regard messages from that source as safe and allow them to come through. If Netscape wants to see it as dangerous and Junk it (as far as I know, it never did), I can train NS to alter its attitude, can't I? What about NAV?

I know that with firewalls, I'm not supposed to have both ZoneAlarm and the Windows firewall enabled. But if I had my druthers, I'd just as soon have both NS and NAV checking e-mails coming and going. Is it really wrong, rather than merely unnecessary, to have them both enabled? Or am I missing something?

 

Netscape would put Junk mail in the Junk folder, if set up to do it. It usually does nothing for me. Or it may use a filter. If you have filters, be careful. Any mail should be in Trash.

I suppose I shouldn't fuss about it now that at least one newsletter issue got through today, but I wish there was a way to configure whatever program needs it, to regard messages from that source as safe and allow them to come through. If Netscape wants to see it as dangerous and Junk it (as far as I know, it never did), I can train NS to alter its attitude, can't I? What about NAV?

Yes, or maybe for Netscape, but it should not be out of sight. I don't know much about NAV, other than stay away from it. I don't trust it.


I know that with firewalls, I'm not supposed to have both ZoneAlarm and the Windows firewall enabled. But if I had my druthers, I'd just as soon have both NS and NAV checking e-mails coming and going. Is it really wrong, rather than merely unnecessary, to have them both enabled? Or am I missing something?

I don't trust SP2, so I don't have to worry of anything more than Zone Alarm.
It is unnecessary to check mail in Netscape for viruses, if javascript is disabled (in mail only). And, NAV is notorious in wiping out the entire Inbox, for one virus. I had NAV for two days, and I returned it, for that reason.
I have had AVG, for years, and, have it check Incoming and Outgoing mail, with no problem.
Otherwise, as I said before, unless there is some Spam Control which removes mail from server, there is no reason for the problem you had. If I had not checked my Yahoo mail at the website, I would have never known that it was placing it in the bulk folder. This was done prior to downloading mail into Netscape or other mail clients. So? I dunno.

 

Phooey! I haven't gotten a single isssue of the newletter since that one back on Nov. 10. And the friend I've mentioned before says he even got one on Saturday.

I had an idea, but it didn't pan out. My wife has a laptop, also configured with WinXP SP2, NS 7.1, NAV, ZA, Spybot and Ad-Alarm, that is the other part of a wi-fi set-up running through a Linksys router. We each have an account on it. I hadn't thought to change her NAV to no longer scan e-mails as I did my desktop. She usually gets up earlier than I do and turns on her laptop to check for e-mails. When no issue appeared Monday on either rig, I suspected maybe her laptop had blocked it for both computers. So I reconfigured the laptop's NAV to no longer scan e-mails, thinking that might do the trick. But it doesn't seem to have helped. No issues on either machine.

Now what?

 

Now, you can stop worrying. Till the next time, of course.

 

I'm not sure, but my wording

may have been misconstrued. By "no issues" I didn't mean no problems with either machine, I meant no new issues of the newsletter have shown up on either machine. Sorry for the ambiguity.

 

I was just kidding. You spent a lot of time trying to get to the bottom of the issue, and although the problem was solved, the reason was not determined. I understood it that way.

 

I thought that was another possibility.

The thing is, the problem has not been resolved. I did get that one issue last Friday, but none of the issues since then. So I'm really back to where I started, with no newsletters getting through.

 

Sorry, I misread the first sentence of yesterday's message.
I have only one suggestion, which is to cancel, and then resubscribe. May be even to contact the site, listing what you have, etc. Amazingly, with the exception of the initial problem, at the Yahoo website, the newsletters had been pouring in, although I unsubscribed, by now.
As a last resort, you could give me any e-mail address of yours, and I could forward one of the messages.I have two of 11-4, then one each for 11-6,7 and 8. The webmaster e-mail address is chuck@chuckmuth.com
I am sure that he wants to know if you have problems.

 

Westside: As I said early in this thread, I've already tried the unsubscribe-resubscribe routine, probably 4 times in the past 1.5 years I've been having this problem. Sometimes it will enable one or two newsletter issues to come through and then they'll stop, and other times it's had no effect at all.

I also said I'd both e-mailed and telephoned the Web site. They tell me their records show me listed as a subscriber. They have no idea why my issues don't get through, and they really aren't capable of what we'd call tech support.

As for the issues I haven't been receiving lately, my friend has been forwarding them to me. Why he gets them and I don't, especially with our computers and programs being so similar and we're both using the same ISP, that's part of what's so mysterious about all this.

 

Since you are receiving messages forwarded by your friend, I don't have a clue. I was hoping that if any program would see something funny in the message to block it, it may show up. I can only think of the Sender which would be different, but what could possibly prevent the e-mails from arriving is beyond me. There is something which is stopping at the server level.
But, in cases like that I would try even Outlook Express to eliminate the mail client.

 

BOBBO,

If you have the Newsletter you did receive, and the ones forwarded by your friend, then click on View | Message Source. Compare the header info on the Newsletter you received, and the one received by your friend. Do you see any major differences?

I'm coming up blank on this, because like Westside, I received the newsletter even after unsubscribing. I didn't save any of them, however...

 

Ramona: My friend's e-mail to me shows this line:

----- Original Message ----- From: <noreplydls@worldprofitemail.com>

The one issue of the newsletter that came through to me last week shows that last part along with a whole bunch of other stuff -- X-Mozilla, etc. So it appears they're both from the same sender. Right?

This morning I thought maybe adding Muth's e-mail address to the NS Address Book's in both my desktop and my wife's laptop would somebnow cause them to recognize and grant permission to the newsletter, but no issue came through today.

 

Thanks BOBBO,

Do you have any web mail accounts, i.e., Netscape Webmail? Try changing the email address for the Newsletter to your Webmail account, and see if it is received there.