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Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by dkline, 2008/07/24.

  1. 2008/07/28
    dkline

    dkline Inactive Thread Starter

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    Another possibility -- and I do apologize for burdening you ... maybe I can repay you with my wife's butterscotch carmelitas or buy you a drink if you're ever in Portland -- is that I just ran registry fix, and while I didn't correct anything yet, it indicated there were a whole mess of problems.

    1 error in startup programs (msmsmgs does not exist at the specified location), 15 active x/classes problems, 2 application paths problems, 202 shared program problems, 5 program ID problems, 32 invalid references throughout the registry, and 16 invalid shortcuts.

    Would it be wise to have registry fix correct these problems now?
     
  2. 2008/07/28
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    In order of your last 3 posts ....

    That is very strange - the default locations of Cookies, History are .....

    C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Cookies
    C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\History
    C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files

    As I tweak my system to locate Cookies, Favourites, etc on another drive for easy backup and have turned History off in the Registry I double checked on a vanilla install of XP Home on my eeePC. The locations are correct so why you have them showing up in C:\Windows\Temp I have no idea. Are they current folders - look at the dates.

    Drive space is fine on C:\ drive.
    I would not think so - I use Quicken 2000 and have not had any issues after deleting Temp files.
    I would - then if anything goes wrong you still have the original drive to fall back on.
    At any mention of bad disk sectors I would check out the drive using the manufacturer's disk diagnostic software ....

    ExcelStore ....
    http://www.excelstor.com/en/download.asp
    Hitachi .....
    http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
    Samsung ....
    http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/utilities/Support_HUTIL.html
    Seagate, Maxtor, Quantum .....
    http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/
    Western Digital ....
    http://support.wdc.com/download/
    Worth a shot, but use the new hard drive .
    Bearing in mind that I don't live in the States, but judging by comments on the Board - never in a month of Sundays :D
     

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    You snuck another post in while I responded :)

    I am not familiar with Registry Fix - can't say I have ever heard of it and would instinctively mistrust it. As a general rule my advice is to leave the registry well alone, but in this case any slight risk is justifies as a backup is made ....

    I suggest you download and run a trial of jv16PowerTools - the trial is fully functional and not crippled in any way and run the Registry Cleaner and see what that comes up with. Under the Results format tab select RAW format

    Once the scan has finished sort into High > Low by clicking on the Error Severity column header.

    Select > By frequent column data > Error Severity > High

    Click Fix and make the backup as offered - name it as 'High date' for identification later.

    Repeat for other levels of severity.
     
  5. 2008/07/28
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    Okay, I downloaded and ran power tools.

    I didn't know whether to set the engine to include windows-related data or not, so I left it at the default (excluding windows-related data).

    It found 649 severe errors, corrected 10 and deleted 639 errors.

    That makes me extremely nervous.

    Should I go ahead and reboot and see what happens? Or run the backup to reverse the changes made while I still can?

    In other words, what if the changes made make it unbootable?

    Breathlessly waiting...
     
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    I would not hesitate to reboot :) although the registry changes are most likely to be active now. Registry changes which require a reboot to be actuated are generally those which affect Windows basic operation. The errors you have corrected are, in the main, benign.
     
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    Okay, thanks. I'll reboot.

    Once I do, should I re-run power tools and correct the medium and low problems as well? Should I also set the engine to look at windows-related problems?

    Btw, I don't know who my hard disk manufacturer is -- it's not listed in my dell purchase documents -- although disk management says the disk is healthy. But I went to Dell to run their diagnostics, and it was interruped by a warning for "high risk" that listed 3 scripts it recommended I stop: sprtcmd.exe, sprtsvc.exe and bcont.exe.

    What does that mean?
     
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    Depends on the situation after reboot - will do no harm, but equally probably no good.
    I don't see that option - where is it?
    A generic warning whenever scripts are to be executed - they are standard Dell diagnostic files and should be safe to run..
     
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    So now it turns out that I need a reinstallation windows CD that has SP2 on it to create the PC Backup bootable disk with the proper drivers that can read a usb external drive to restore the backup.

    My original Windows CD for my desktop doesn't have SP2 but my laptop's reinstall disk does. Can I use that to create a PC Backup bootable disk on my desktop machine?

    If not, I'll have to go buy one.

    Meanwhile, I'm copying critical data files to my external disk and now I'm getting "data error (cyclic redundancy check)" every so often. What does that mean?

    And finally, before I try a restore to a new drive, is there a Windows repair option anywhere? Or am I beyond that now?

    Thanks again for bearing with me.
     
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    I am not familiar with PC Backup, but clearly worth a try - and test.

    If not no need to go spending on a copy of XP with SP2 - just ......

    http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.htm

    Download SP2 from here ....

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=049C9DBE-3B8E-4F30-8245-9E368D3CDB5A
    indicates problems with the hard drive - from which you are copying - bad sectors etc.

    When you have copied off all you can go Start > Run > type in cmd > Enter

    In the command window which opens type cd\ at the flashing cursor > Enter

    At the C:\ prompt type chkdsk /r > Enter, noting the space and accept the invite to run at next boot. Reboot.

    Then try to copy across those files which gave the CRC error.
    Yes, but I would make that slipstreamed CD first or you may have the odd problem.....

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917964
     
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    You must be getting tired of me thanking you, but alas, I need to keep thanking you.

    PCBackup needs an original Windows installation disk with SP2, so I can't just download it (in fact, I already have SP3 on my PC).

    I just had another thought: I noticed that my fan inside the case is loose. It appears to be slightly running -- a mild breeze -- but I'm wondering if a defective fan could cause all these problems.

    Meanwhile, I'll run checkdisk. Thanks.
     
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    I would have thought that a slipstreamed SP2 CD would suffice - it is the same as a retail XP SP2 CD.

    The URL I posted is for the complete download of SP2 as an executable file- it does not matter which SP you have on your computer.
    If it is the case fan highly unlikely - the CPU fan is another matter, but if that was not cooling the CPU adequately you would have other problems.

    Close on 11 PM here - logging off.
     
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    Well, chkdsk found a boatload of bad clusters and file problems. Supposedly it fixed them but I don't know yet if any data is lost.

    Good news is, the PC seems to be functioning much faster now. I'll know for sure when I come to work in the morning. But just to give you an example, it earlier took me 30 seconds after clicking on "show desktop" for the desktop to appear. Now, it's instantaneous, like it should be.

    So I'm very hopeful, and very very grateful to you.

    I'll check with you tomorrow about that "slipstream" CD with SP2 -- I don't know what that means. To reiterate, I need a Windows XP install CD with Sp2 on it for PC Backup to read from and then copy to another CD which it will make into my disaster recovery bootable CD.

    Anyway, things are looking up, thanks to you.
     
  14. 2008/07/29
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    That's most encouraging, but I would have some concerns about the state of the hard drive.

    Silpstreaming an XP CD with a service pack merges the two together to produce a bootable CD with the service pack included. In other words the end result is the same as a retail copy of XP with SP2/3 included and can be used to install the OS complete with service pack, rather than installing the service pack separately. It is a recognised practice.
    Slipstreaming your XP/XP SP1 install CD with SP2 will give you just that.
     
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    I have concerns about the drive as well.

    Anyway, although the system is back up to speed, several problems remain. Quicken, iTunes, my camera downloading program, and possibly several other apps won't open. Also, when I click on a photo to open it in email, I get "error loading C\windows\system32\shimgvw.dll not installed on your system." When I click on iTunes, I get "quicktime not found, please reinstall iTunes." Also, I still don't have my restore points from system restore.

    Is it possible, by the way, that restoring the PowerTools backup I created before it deleted 649 high severity errors would restore Quicken functionality?

    Anyway, it seems there are three approaches I could take:

    1) Try to add shimgvw.dll and any other files that may be missing -- I know there's a way to do that but I forget how -- and reinstall some programs as needed. But with at least one of them -- Quicken -- that could be dififcult especially reconfiguring my online bill pay which I don't remember how to do.

    2) Try to restore only those programs and directories needed (e.g., quicken and iTunes and the windows directories) back onto my c urrent system and drive. But I'm not sure if I'd need to restore the registry and system state as well to make those programs work. I'm also not sure what that would do as my current system state and registry is different (with the addition of power tools and a new version of PC backup).

    3) Try to restore everything from my backup onto a fresh drive, which I have on hand. I'm a bit nervous about installing a new drive -- not sure I know how, plus I'm just leary of disassembling a drive that at least works, even if it has some problems. But the upside is that POTENTIALLY I'll get a perfect system back.

    What do you think?
     
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    Oh boy, I just got another "data error: cyclic redundancy check. "

    Should I run chkdsk /r again, or is that pointless or liable to cause more harm than good?

    Also, since I'm not 100% sure that PC Backup can restore my existing backup to a new drive with complete fidelity, is it worth doing another full backup of this current system (with all its problems) just so that, if necessary, I can at least reproduce this system on a fresh drive with no cluster problems? Put another way, will the physical problems with this drive prevent an accurate backup of files and programs from being done?
     
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    Under the circumstances I would restore your original PC Backup to the new drive - physically straightforward ....

    Remove the power connector and ribbon cable from the old drive - check that the new drive is jumpered as Master,connect up the cables and boot from your PC Backup Recovery CD and hope :) No need to physically install the drive in the computer right now - prop it up on something secure. As for the existing drive all you have done is remove the cables - plugging them back in will get you back to the status quo.
    Given that the backup is perfect :)

    Personally I would do nothing further to the existing hard drive - consider a fresh backup only if the backup to the new drive is unsatisfactory, bearing in mind that all the problems on that drive will be replicated in the image/backup.
    No, Maybe, Maybe
    That is uncertain - what is certain that only that data which can be read from the drive will be backed up.
     
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    Thanks, Pete.

    Well, during a reboot this morning I got a "no system disk" warning, then cold booted and then it came up okay. But obviously, this drive is failing.

    Given that, is there any danger to the old drive from permanently installing the new one (rather than just propping it up on something to see if it works first)? I don't anticipate needing the old drive, but you never know -- I may need to reconnect it, perhaps as a 2nd slave drive, to get some data from it.

    But given the shape it's in, I might as well just go ahead and make my new drive permanent, don't you think?
     
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    Entirely up to you - mount it permanently if you feel happier with that situation - it's only 4 screws :)
    No - it will be disconnected.

    Ihe old drive is looking more fragile each day :(
     
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    Yes, the drive on its own goes into chkdsk every time it reboots, I even tried reinstalling Quicken from the original download executable and for some reason it wouldn't take. I suspect the bad clusters that chkdsk isolated contain some critical system files.

    Quick question: would it make sense to use that scannow command to reinstall those missing system files?

    Anyway, tomorrow morning I install the new drive and pray for a successful restore. If not, I'll wipe the new drive and do a fresh install of windows and then spend the next several days reinstalling programs and customizing settings and shutting down XP bloat in startup programs and services.

    But why should I care? It's not like I have a career or anything better to do with my time, right? :rolleyes:

    Pete, you have been extraordinarily generous with your time in helping me. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
     
  21. 2008/07/30
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    Certainly would not do any harm, but as to the degree of success that is anyone's guess :)
     

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