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MAYBE ? XP may be here to stay

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by BillyBob, 2003/05/30.

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  1. 2003/05/31
    TonyT

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    At first, use the "Safe Config" as detailed in the Services Table at Black Viper web site. Then uninstall Indexing Service completely using Add-Remove Programs\Windows Components.
     
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    Thanks Tony

    I did take at look at the Black Viper web site but I need to take a break and start again tomorrow.

    :( These old eyes ( and BRAIN ) just ain't what they used to be. :(

    Plus as long as I have XP up and running I can take my time and do a little at a time.

    BB
     

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    DNS and DHCP clients. Aren't they needed by the LAN ?

    Probably not and maybe.

    DNS - if your network settings are pointing you to a DNS server, that server will take care of the name resolution. All you will be doing is stopping the local caching of DNS info on your XP box which, in theory, should slow down the initial connection to a site but in practice doesn't seem to. At least not for the systems I've played with. And it is certainly the easiest way to stop the annoying habit of XP to cache bad URL information right along with the good ones.

    DHCP - if you are using static values, you absolutely do not need this running. But if you are letting a DHCP server set you up, you will have to keep it.
     
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    mflynn

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    No BB DHCP and DNS Client is not needed by you for 2 stations.

    Neat thing about Services, you do not have to disable unless you want to. Usually you would set the service to manual and stop it if it is running. Then after a reboot if it does not start in normal use then your config does not need it!

    Service is like a switch panel where you can turn on or off, or on auto pilot to start only if needed or disable completely.

    Mike
     
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    TonyT

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    Another TIP:

    This is how it's doen in win2k, not sure about XP.

    Definitely disable this Service: TCP\IP NetBios Helper Service

    Then rt click Network Icon on desktop, select your Local Area Connection, click Advanced Menu\Advanced Settings and set bindings for TCP. (I have TCP unbound from MSClient and File & Print Sharing)
     
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    If I am awake and thinking correctly my Router is my DHCP server.

    None of three NICs are using Static IPs. With 192.168.100 thru 192.169.1.104 ( must have had a 4th machine on at some time ) And I believe these are all set by the Router.

    Right now while I am messing around I am getting Alerts from Kerio about stuff trying to get in or out via 192.168.1.1 which I believe the LOCAL IP of the Router. If I am not sure I just block it and can change or remove later if needed.

    Also in a previous reply I mentioned SCVHOST.EXE showing in a Firewall report. HAHA !! I found that there 9,999 items that relate to that. So I now know where that is coming from.

    But all of the times it is listed is says LOCAL with 192.168.1.1 as the IP.

    Or, ( and this worries me a little ) ports 137,8,9 are referenced, which I know are NetBios ports. You may ask now NetBios got on here. Well I DID NOT put it there. Windows XP install must have picked it up and ran with it. I saw that the other day when I was going though the Properties off Network Places.

    I ran a check from Symamtec last night and it says It can not find my machine. Hey man. That is the general Idea. It also says that I am not Virus protected. Oh how little they know. They just can't find NAV so they say I don't have protection.

    One of you folks mentioned unistalling Indexing. So went to that place and found that I had aready removed it and EVERYTHING else in the section.

    Now. I have 8 pages of print out from Black Viper. I will start going through the Safe setup maybe today. There is no nurry here. And getting in hurry has wasted many hours in the past.

    I did have to re-install my Quicken last night. For some reason it could not find the Web connection. But that was not totaly unexpected. As I did not jump into this ( Actaully I think major ) change with without expecting a few flaws.

    Coffee and Sunday funnies time.
    Catch y'all later
    BillyBob
     
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    mflynn

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    BB remember DNS and DHCP "CLIENT" think "CLIENT" is not the same as a DHCP "SERVER" which is what your router is doing for you.

    Your stations are retrieving IP's from the router. You do not need these clients at this time.

    Remember BB you do not need to "disable" any service to test if you need it. Just set it to manual and stop it. Some things do not need a reboot but to be sure reboot.

    Be very careful about actually uninstalling services. Just disable.

    BB we are not ready, so please don't look at the event viewer!

    Mike
     
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    Your stations are retrieving IP's from the router. You do not need these clients at this time.

    Thanks for the confirmation.

    Remember BB you do not need to "disable" any service to test if you need it. Just set it to manual and stop it. Some things do not need a reboot but to be sure reboot.

    A step well worth the time.

    That has been my standard practice FOR YEARS Going back to the days of Win95.

    Some changes are not made completely until a reboot is done.

    Later
    BB
     
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    VTY finally bit the bullet and went with XP (Home version - nothing in Pro warrants another C-note for my needs). New drive, full install CD, FAT32. Installation was flawless, reg and activation were fast and painless.

    It immediately recognized and installed my HP printer and scanner and the Maxtor 5000LE external drive.

    The first thing to go was the Playskool theme via switching to Classic Windows. Next was to shut off a passel of stuff in services.msc per Blkviper's site. Now I'm in tweak mode, trying new items as I find them.

    Thusfar, I'm very impressed. It has been almost a month without a BSoD. It's fast and rock-solid.

    The only grief I had was tring to install Norton SystemWorks 2003. NAV went in with no problem, but trying to install the Utilities resulted in constant rebooting. I wound up using NAV 2002 and NU 2002, which are the same as in NSW 2003 but without the wrapper.

    For XP defragging, try VoptXP. XP's included defrag utility is SLO-O-OW. VoptXP is a major improvement.


    Last item: for the gadget freak, a removable hard drive setup is a must. I'm using a KingWin set for my main drive, and will be installing another one for my data storage needs.

    XP is in the box now, but switching back to 98SE is a thirty-second drive swap. It beats the hello out of multi-booting.
     
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    I had the same problem with NSW in 98SE. And like yourself I had no problems with NSW 2002.

    But as of this time I have NO Symantec Products on this machine.

    I have found other AV & Firewall that does just as good WITHOUT the heavy system load.

    When I installed XP Pro ( overtop of SE ) it also picked up everything except the USB scanner which only needed to have the software updated for XP.

    I did that and all is quite well hardware wise.

    Had to re-install InteliPoint 4 but I knew that before hand.

    Also you more than likely read, I am also going to work with Black Viper.

    HELLO !! Big deal !!. I have not had one of them on EITHER machine using 98SE in over 6 months. After I found out the Mr. Norton was causing part of it. And got the VIDEO drivers installed CORRECTLY and using the proper set of drivers.

    BillyBob
     
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    Doom is right, XP's native defrag utility is slow and does NOT completely defrag. It is licensed from Executive Inc. and is merely an even further watered-down version of Diskeeper Lite.

    Far better than VoptXP is PerfectDisk. Evalute it for free. It is the ONLY program that completely defrags the entire drive including all directories, Master File Tables, and Paging/Swap files. After the first time you optimize your files, PerfectDisk defrags with blinding speed.

    If it is not financially feasible to procure such, Diskeeper Lite, although not as thorough, is free and at least better than the native XP defragger.


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    Bruce!!!!

    Lol!

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    You crack me up!

    Mike
     
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    Good Morning all.

    Ist off I wish to thank all those that have done their best to help me out. You folks can only make suggestions or give me ideas but the rest is up to me.

    And with the help from members here this is not as tough a job as I thought it would be.

    Well, I have this thing set up with the settings for "SAFE" from Black Viper.

    Last evening I looked at the Event Viewer and CLEARED it quickly :) Did not like all the Red Xs.

    Since 8:50 PM it shows only 3 DCOM errors under System. 1 last evening and two at 8:xx this morning.

    I do not know about last night but, this morning at that time I was messing around checking out the game connections between this and my Wifes machine. And had to set up Firewall rules. ( which I did wrong at first )

    ( DENY means just what it says. " Get out and STAY out. " :( Alias how to make the Wife unhappy when she can't get into a Golf game with me.

    Otherwise all seems to be going very well. But Tuesday Evening will but this thing into a real test when we Play a Golf Game with our Friend in Canada.

    Something I think I should add here that may make a difference in how things need to be done. All three of my machines are standalone machines. None of them depend on any other for anything. Nothing is ( or needs to be ) permanently shared other then the printer which does require that my Machine be on.

    Thanks again for the help.
    BillyBob
     
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    I just noticed that the system/DCOM error shows up after a restart.

    Also I need to find what is trying to access the A: drive during the boot up ( other than the original check for a boot disk in it ).


    6/2/2003 10:29:52 AM DCOM Error None 10005 BOB\Bob BOB "DCOM got error " "The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it. " " attempting to start the service ImapiService with arguments " "-Service" " in order to run the server:

    Will this help.

    BillyBob
     
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    Anti-virus probably checkin A on startup, otherwise clear all the MRU entries (using tweak UI).
    SVCHOST.EXE and SYSTEM with open connections is normal. If you look at WHAT connections they're making, it's to 127.0.0.1, in other words, it's the system talking to itself, a typical XP thing. :D
    XP's defrag does it's job, use it (about once a month) and forget it.
    DCOm errors will happen all the time. It's XP's way of saying that it can't resolve outgoing data to a DNS server. In other words, the firewall is doing it's job. I get them all the time on my 4 XP boxes on the router/LAN, with NO ill effects. You don't need Imapi, you're not using it, leave it disabled, and ignore the event log for this one.
     
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    Thank you Reboot

    You have help to eased my mind.

    That is what I thought.

    And if I remenber correctly thay all had the word LOCAL shown.

    But I figure with all the help that is available WHY should I sit here and wonder. ?

    BillyBob
     
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    BB - I get worried when you're quiet for so long.

    ;)
     
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    Do you mean just quiet in this post or in general ?

    In this thread yes. In general No

    But things are going quite well. And in all honesty I see no need for XP. But it is here, Is working quite well. And I guess it will stay.

    Haven't made any dangerous moves yet but I am working on it.

    It did pass the most crueling test that I have for it. It played our Tuesday evening Golf very well. But still not really much better than SE did.

    BillyBob
     
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    Rockster2U

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    You know where I stand but be careful - its starts to grow on you. Guaranteed! Glad all is well - I learned a lot from this thread too. Thanks.

    ;)
    :cool:
     
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