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IBM HDDs

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Christer, 2003/11/25.

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  1. 2003/12/08
    donabano

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    I had purchased 5 IBM Model IC35L040AVER07, 40gb for a special project I was working on. These drives were so bad, that to get an RMA from IBM was a real pain. Finally, they replaced them. They marked them "serviceable used part ". Three (3) of these drives failed within 6 weeks, I while setting up a new computer. I have the other 2 still working, but during a leak test on a firewall check, it says the HDD has bad blocks. I can't get an RMA from IBM of these because they have been replaced before. Also, not having a FRU number also makes life difficult. They ask you about this FRU number, or it could be Global, but they don't say about without these FRU numbers. Always make it difficult for the people who are spening the bucks. Arie mentions about throwing it away. I agree with him. Some of my vital data files were copied by a technician and re sold to my competitors. If I can't fix it, I throw it away, or reformat it. Nobody will ever take a HDD out of my home or office again. RMA service is great, but they hassle you all the time. For instance, I was using MAXTOR, who had a very liberal RMA Policy. Then they went into testing and I tested a HDD out with their floppy. The results were bad drive. We forwarded the results. They turned down the RMA. I stopped buying Maxtor products. I have since used at least 22 HDD since. They would have been Maxtor. Not to bright.

    Good luck to all

    Thanks for all the info

    donabano
     
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    I returned an IBM/Hitachi drive, no trouble getting an RMA, and I got the new drive back as fast as UPS could get it to California and back.

    I also got a note on the packing slip with the returned drive, It said I could return it anytime it failed and they would replace it for $1.00 If it fails again, it will not be going back.

    This post has given me reason to be concerned. That drive had been "C" and contained all my financials. So far my bank accounts have not been raided, but I had Quicken on the drive, if some dishonest tech could figure out my password, it would be goodbye.

    I guess if you have proprietary/financial stuff on a drive and it fails, the prudent thing to do would be take an axe to it, even if it is under warranty. That is what I will do if a drive with those files on it fails.

    Martin
     

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    Would exposing the drive to an extremely high level magnetic field create enough scramble to the records... at least for warranty replacement.
     
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    From my December 1st post:

    What happend then was my wife bought me a paper clip holder that had a magnetic base to keep the paperclips in place. I put it on my desk, next to the box of Floppy diskettes that I had stored start up programs, etc. When I went to use any of the diskettes, there was nothing on them. I was really a newbie at the time, so I called a computer friend over who had some experince. He messed around with the drive and the disks for a while getting nowhere. Then he asked: "do you have an magnets around?" and it hit me. Moved the paperclip holder, no more floppy problem.

    So far, no response to the magnet/HDD question.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I have browsed the web on the "failure rate" subject regarding all brands and I don´t think that any one of them gets away unscathed. I can quote expressions like "Not another Maxtor ", Western Digital over my dead body, Seagate - never again and so on.

    I believe that in the harddrive industry, there are "bad batches" as in any other industry and also that there are hardware/hardware and hardware/software mismatches.

    One comment was "How come some people never have any problems at all with these 75GXP and/or 60GXP drives and other people have problems with one after the other(s)? ".

    donabano,
    the IBM Model IC35L040AVER07 is exactly the same model that I have.
    Mine has been running for 2½ years now and this particular drive is not what makes me worried, it´s what I´ve read about other peoples experiences.

    Today, I went to "my" computer store and had a chat with them on this subject.
    I´m getting ready to buy a new harddrive and plan to use the old one as a slave for backup purposes, in a front mounted rack.

    I asked the guy if it was stupid to use that type of harddrive for system backups, considering their reputation and a fraction of a second later I realized that there could only be one answer to that question, well, from a sales person at least.

    How wrong I was ...... :eek: ...... he was actually of the opinion that if the harddrive had survived this long without any signs of trouble, then it would probably be safe ...... :) ...... and I was impressed by him not seeing a sale at the horizon!

    However, he said that their experience of the failure rates for the different brands was that IBM topped the league and Seagate was at the bottom with Maxtor and the others inbetween and in this respect, being at the bottom is a good thing.
    He didn´t actively try to persuade a customer to buy a Hitachi (ex IBM) drive but those who insisted, walked away with one.

    I´m beginning to feel like trying a Hitachi, it has top notch performance and is priced right which makes it a good buy in terms of GB per money unit.

    I wonder if the sales person will look at me through dark shades and ask Do You feel lucky ...... punk? Well, ...... do You?

    Christer
     
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    Yeah Christer, I suppose that the same is true of any mass marketed manufactured mechanical marvel.

    How many times have I heard: "I'll never buy a Ford (Chevy, Saab, Volkswagon, Toyota etc.) again."

    My brother, if he could, would burn down the Nissan factory.

    I guess we are all at the mercy of the Quality Control department!

    Martin
     
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