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Draining resources after an hour

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by Baysix, 2004/09/17.

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  1. 2004/09/22
    merlin

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    I give up on this one as well - we are not talking about conventional
    memory that can be magically restored by RAM savers.
    Are you saying you have a Win98 16 bit memory manager ?
    Now that would be something ! :)
     
  2. 2004/09/22
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    Let me clarify that for you. When you have an OS like Win98 operating on Pentium chip, you're really talking about a 16-bit OS running on a 32-bit cpu. This 16-bit architecture goes back to the original Win3.x and there is a reason for that: it's called backward compatibility (in terms of software and also w/ the fact that the original Win OS could only access 16-bit registers in the BIOS). Without going into too much of a technical explanation (which I doubt you would bother to read anyway), I'll tell you that WinNT was created from the ground up. In essence it was not created w/ the limitation of this 16-bit legacy compatibility.

    Now, Merlin, I don't appreciate you twisting my words to your liking. With ignorant-style questions like this, it really shows the utter lack of knowledge you have with computers. (and it also helps to quote people accurately).
     

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    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    OK Professer fill me in. Or lets clear something up.

    I believe ( thought ) that all Windows starting with 95B ( OSR2 ) were capable of 32bit. Depending on how the USER set them up. ( I believe )

    Plus I was just looking at System Info on a 98 SE machine.

    It shows several items such as

    Avgemc.exe--32bit app and also shows

    Windows32------Win32sys
    Windows16------Win16sys


    Now unless I am wrong that machine with 98 SE IS RUNNING 32BIT.

    This is on a machine with a AMD Duron Processor 1.2GHz.

    So is it Windows or the CPU that determins whether it is in 16 or 32 bit.

    BillyBob
     
  5. 2004/09/22
    Maverick

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    With sarcastic comments like that, I neither have the inclination or time for your pathetics/debates which prove nothing to me other than that you lack a basic understanding of the Enlgish language.

    According to Merlin's title he is a "Supergeek" so he might have the knowledge to fill you in.
     
  6. 2004/09/22
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    If your looking for some reading to sleep by this should do it. The following is an excerpt ....

    An important distinction between DOS and Windows applications is the size of a machine word. Intel designed the original 8086 opcodes with 16-bit computing in mind. As a result, they use a single bit to distinguish between 16-bit operands and 8-bit operands. Because one bit has two possible values, this forces the newer 32-bit processor mode to have only two operand sizes as well. 32-bit mode changes the meaning of the size bit to distinguish between 32-bit operands and 8-bit operands. As a result, the size of a "small" operand is 8 bits in both modes, but the size of a "large" operand depends on the mode. Under DOS, the CPU runs in legacy 16-bit mode. This means that the default size of a "large" operand is 16 bits. Windows, however, runs in 32-bit mode, making the default size of a "large" operand 32 bits. To keep things simple, this article uses the term "word" to mean the size of a large operand. If your application runs under DOS, a "word" is 16 bits, but if your application runs under Windows, a "word" is 32 bits.
     
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    Thank you Dennis L

    BillyBob
     
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