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    Christer

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    After You edited:

    Why do You shut it down, what's the purpose?

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    Hi Christer,

    What about Your scans, do they get Your cookies?

    No as a matter fact, Ad-Aware and SpyBot seem to do that better.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    The first shutdown is useless - the 2nd, after I run the scan, I don't want any part of the program running. Since ending the main module doesn't end the NA portion and I don't want the real time protection, so the right click > shutdown.

    EDIT: BTW, were you able to get rid of the autostart?

    Regards - Charles
     
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    I have unchecked every box to NOT have anything running in the background, even checked to "hide the icon in the NA" but it still shows up in TaskManager and msconfig > autostart.

    I didn't try unchecking in msconfig > autostart since my opinion is that it should be possible through configuration of the program itself.

    If You bring it down ...... :p ...... tell us about it!

    Christer

    ...... :D ...... are we editing to confuse eachother or are we typing too fast ...... :D ...... anyway, I answered Your additional question too!
     
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    Well Christer, you don't have to feel like the Lone Ranger here. :) Mines exactly the same as yours. Doesn't matter how I set what. It always runs at startup and the real time protection is enabled. If I disable it and close the tray icon, the next time I open the program from a shortcut it's running again with real time enabled. If I go and check the options it's still set to disabled but the real time protection seems to have a mind of it's own.

    Oh, do those of you in Sweden know who the Lone Ranger is? If not, you'll have to Google it. I'll never tell. :)
     
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    A mate of Lucky Luke's maybe ...... :p ...... ?

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    I forgot to mention that I leave the icon in the NA after disabling Real-time Protection and when I check after a while RP is still disabled until I either restart the computer or open MSAS.

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    Works exactly the same for me Christer.

    Serves me right! LOL, I had to Google Lucky Luke only to find that you probably do know who the Lone Ranger is. Or, did you cheat and Google the ole Lonesome Stranger first???? Either way, you win in the end. :( :)
     
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    Take a look in-

    HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

    For the file gcasServ.

    This is the file the loads at boot up.

    The is the file that StartupCop uses to control whether the program loads at boot up or not.

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    Oh no, no cheating ...... :cool: ...... I just shot from the hip, didn't even unholster and rode out towards the sunset!

    (Now, I'm going google on the Lone Ranger to verify my suspicions ...... :D ...... !)

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    BillyBob,

    I've been there and am playing with the idea to delete that value to see what happens.

    ...... :confused: ...... time to exercise those Ghost Boot Disks ...... :rolleyes: ......

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    When I disable that file in Startup Cop ( and restart )it gets removed form the area.

    Re-enable and restart it gets put it back.

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    LOL - LOL

    Not only do I not get a startup entry, I can't RE-ENABLE RealTime Protection.

    I don't want to think about this anymore, at least not for a while.

    Well, Charles, it's still in Beta 1 Ok, chalk to up to that LOL

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Previously, regardless of the settings in Options > Settings > Real-time Protection, MSAS was started at boot time and was running in the background. It always showed up as a process in TaskManager.

    I deleted the value for MSAS (don't remember the name ...... :eek: ......) in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run and restarted the computer. The entry in msconfig > autostart is gone. It doesn't appear in TaskManager.

    Now, regardless of the settings in Options > Settings > Real-time Protection, even if "Startup option" is checked to ENABLE, MSAS does not get started at boot time and is not running in the background.

    If I open MSAS via Start > All programs, it appears in TaskManager (several processes). When I close it, the processes linger. I have to kill Real-time Protection from the Notification Area and after that, the processes are gone.

    I can perform all kinds of tasks and it does not get put back, neither in the registry nor in msconfig.

    I have a strong feeling that web browsing is significantly faster without MSAS running in the background ...... :confused: ...... but it can be pure coincidence.

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    Hi Christer,

    I'm just going to continue on with using as a scanner which was my original plan anyway, disabled the real time protect from the get go, not going to bother trying to enable the real time protect again. The only reason for that was to check on the results everyone else seemed to be getting.

    There is a Wilderss thread on the beta with several Giant users posting. I'm going to cross- link this thread and see if there are any responses to this.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Hi Charles!

    What bothers me is that we get different behaviour.

    Some of us have it in msconfig > autostart, others don't.

    Some of us have it running from boot time, no matter what, others don't. (Probably related to the one above.)

    Some of us get the temp-files in C:\Windows\Temp, others get them in C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Local settings\Temp.

    Some of us can't reenable Real-time Protection, others can turn it off and on at will.

    I could go on ...... :confused: ......

    Could this be system specific or maybe the way MSAS was installed? I downloaded the setup file to the local HDD and installed from there.

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    Funny you should mention that. I've noticed lately that browsing seems quite slow lately. I was just wondering myself if it could be due to MSAS. Reason being, I haven't had it running all the time and I have to say that my browsing being slower has been spotty. I'd never really put the two together until this morning when I rebooted and it was loaded at startup. Browsing wasn't slow before I rebooted but was after. As I type this it's running and some of the pages here take a good 5 second or more to display (which is quite slow for my connection). I'll do some checking with mine and let you know what I find.
     
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    Zander,
    I made a remark on the slowness of the board or the web as a whole a few days ago. I didn't remember if I noticed the slowness before or after installing MSAS. I checked the times and I made the remark on 01/10 and installed MSAS on 01/11.

    Still, after having deleted that registry value ...... :confused: ...... browsing appeared to be faster on most sites that I visit regularly. (You learn how they load and behave.) Right now, WindowsBBS loads slower than normal for me too.

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    Yeah, I posted to the thread. You asked if the site seemed a bit slow. My answer was yes. It's been that way for several days now for me and it's possible it coincides with MSAS installation but it's too soon to point fingers at it just yet.
     
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