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  1. 2004/08/19
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Who...,

    My mistake ...... :eek: ...... sorry about that!

    Norton Ghost is an application for creating backup images of a system. Ghost Explorer is a component of Norton Ghost and it is similar to Windows Explorer. In GE You can view the contents of an image in the same way as You can view the contents of C: in WE. The thing about GE is that it ignores all hidden attributes and displays everything.

    No, I run NIS 2003 and have no problems!

    For me, as the single user of my computer, this is interesting. Windows seems to hide the TIF sub folders for the active user account ...... :confused: ...... I wonder why.

    By the way, a few posts up, I asked if You had tried to uninstall-reinstall RealPlayer (if that is what You use to view those videos). Have You?

    Sorry for causing confusion,
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  2. 2004/08/19
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    Yes. You will be running a full 32bit version so additional features:

    - long file names
    - you can cursor into stuff you've typed and make overtype or single character changes if you need to rather than just having to erase to the point where you want to change what you've typed.
    - 32bit utilities that want to run from a command prompt will work or work properly
    - when you close the window, it will close and not give that annoying message that it can't until you click another button

    For instance, here is a path output from each version on my PC and I know which one I like better.

    PATH=C:\PROGRA~1\OPENTE~1\LIVELI~1;C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1.NET\FRAMEW~1\Bin\;C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2.NET\Common7\IDE\;C:\WINDOWS\MICRO

    PATH=C:\Program Files\Open Text\LiveLink Explorer;C:\Program Files\Microsoft.NET\FrameworkSDK\Bin\;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Common7\IDE\;C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705\;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Vc7\bin\;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;
     
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  4. 2004/08/19
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    1. You cannot delete those folders while explorer.exe is running, for the account you are currently logged in as. If you are logged in as JohnDoe, you cannot delete c:\Documents and Settings\JohnDoe\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\ because they are in use by windows. To take them "out of use by windows" you must kill explorer.exe. You CAN delete those folders of other users: c:\Documents and Settings\MaryJaneDoe\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\

    2. XP does not has DOS. It is similar to DOS, but not actual DOS. The XP commandline can be used to delete files & folders just like in old DOS, but some commands are different.

    Ghost Explorer is a program included in the Norton Ghost Application. Norton Ghost is a program used to make backup copies of the hard drive or sections of the hard drive, at the hard drive level. It is not a file-copy program, it, in essences makes a copy of the binary data (ones and zeros) on the hard drive. These ones and zeros represent the files and data. Ghost Explorer is a Norton tool that lets one view and /or edit the contents of the Ghost file. The Ghost file is saved in the format of .GHO or .IMG. The file is referred to as an image file because it is an exact "image" of the hard drive. (not an image like a picture file, but it is an image of the drive) Ghost is not part of Windows.
     
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  5. 2004/08/20
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    Thanks for explaining what GE is Christer, I was beginning to think I'd lost the plot there! ;)

    OK then so I don't think my problem ought to be NIS 2003 related! ;)

    So you have this EXACT SAME symptom then? Now that IS interesting. And for you it doesn't interfere with anything as far as you can tell? :confused:

    No I'd missed that suggestion in the deluge of info' I've received w.r.t my post. I can certainly see where you are coming from here and it's got to be worth a try. I'll do that when I'm done with my replies and get back to you on the results. ;)

    Nature of the beast I think isn't it Christer? Computers are complex doo-hickies and that's part of their allure! :)
     
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  6. 2004/08/20
    Who_am_i

    Who_am_i Inactive Thread Starter

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    Cheers mate! Now it has been explained to me I know which I'd rather have too!! so it's ~cmd for me from now on. :) :)
     
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  7. 2004/08/20
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    OK and thanks TonyT, I think I get it now. I CAN delete files and folders if I do either one of these two things:-
    Delete them in the explorer view, BUT ONLY if I've logged in on and am working from another account!
    OR
    Delete then in psuedo DOS mode in the account I've signed in on. (By entering this 'DOS' type mode I've effectively "killed" explorer.exe).
    Many thanks mate! :) :)
     
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  8. 2004/08/20
    Christer

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    Who,

    No, I have no other account to log to which means that I have not seen it on my own computer. I am drawing a conclusion based on Your information on what is happening with Your computer.

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  9. 2004/08/20
    Who_am_i

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    OK Christer, I've found that text of yours that I mis-read the first time around. Now I've read it again I see you were just making a puzzled comment as to the why and where-for of what is happening on my machine. Yes it is VERY confusing. It seems that when-ever I sign in on an account, it is THAT account which then seems to 'lose' the Content.IE5 folder and the 4 alpha-numerically named folders within that.
    NOTICE TO ALL MY HELPERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I said in my earlier reply (today) that I'd take up your suggestion to un/re-install REAL. I took the opportunity to download the latest, player only software and now find much of what I like to follow [news especially] is again visible to me and coincidentally plays better than it used to due I suspect to the better coding in this new version. :D
    There are STILL links to supposed "REAL" files that give me this strange message about not being able to find the file "C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ABCD1234\launch[1].ram and these still do not play whatever I try. However, I'm not completely stuck for most of the news items that I like to keep abreast of. :)

    Please DON'T close off my query yet though as I'm still extremely interested in getting this browser folder thing to function properly.

    A couple of general questions:-
    1. Does anybody else out there in the Windows BBS World suffer similar failures to load "REAL" files in their IE browser? :confused: and....
    2. When you look in an explorer view of your browser files, does the path to the cached files look like this please? "C:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files" [apparently missing the folder group that is labeled \Content.IE5\ - then four more alph-numerically named folders like "GQ1EENFN" for instance]? :confused: :confused:

    Regards,
    Who..
     
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  10. 2004/08/20
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    Unlike some forums, we don't close threads because they are "complete" or "finished ". They just fade away from no new activity.

    As to the other, I don't use the feature you are having problems with but I do have a thought. You may have a damaged user account and if so, strange things will happen to you.

    Best suggestions I can make are to:

    - click on start, on run, type in
    Code:
    sfc /scannow
    and see if the system file check will correct your problem. That may have already been suggested and done but the thread is dense enough now that I could easily have overlooked it.

    - if that doesn't/didn't help, create a new user account, give it the rights you want it to have, use the information from This article to copy most of your settings to the new account (saves lots of setup time) and see if the problem follows you to that one.
     
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  11. 2004/08/25
    Christer

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    A few posts up, I suggested moving the TIF folder and gave some confusing directions which included deleting the old folder but there was no old folder to delete.

    Well, I found the source in my archive, I had picked up the information in Microsofts KB301057 article: Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified and I remembered almost correctly.

    On one occasion, I interrupted a streaming video and the TIF folder became severely corrupted. It was rectified by following the instruction in KB301057 and it seems like it could be applicable in Your situation.

    The only step I didn't remember was to create a new folder before moving and that's probably why there was no old one to delete and maybe also the reason why it didn't work.

    Christer
     
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  12. 2004/08/30
    Who_am_i

    Who_am_i Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi guys,
    Been on my hols, hence the response gap.

    Newt
    Glad to hear these threads don't get "removed" as in some other forums. Must mean a lot of disk space on some server somewhere though? I had tried 'sfc /scannow' on the command [erm cmd] line before, but I gave it another whirl just to be certain. Again though, as far as I could see nothing changed.
    Then I followed the directions you and that link [http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811151&Product=winxp] gave me to create a new account with Admin' rights and most of the original TIF settings etc. Unfortunately - and amuzingly to some extent - the problem of the missing folders and files beyond the Temporary Internet Folder followed me over in to this one too when it was acting as the active account. :confused: :confused: :(
    Any other ideas please??

    Christer
    I'll have another attempt at moving my active TIF folder/files to a new location and then back again once I've finished this, but like my comments to Newt above, I don't think it'll change any more than it did before.

    Downloaded and installed WIndows XP SP2 today. Nothing relating to this problem has altered though.

    Keep your helpful suggestions coming if you can please!! :)
    Who..
     
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  13. 2004/09/10
    Who_am_i

    Who_am_i Inactive Thread Starter

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    Christer
    I tried moving my active TIF folder/files to a new location [my C:\temp folder] and then back again, but as I thought would be the case, there resulted absolutely no change in the lost folders situation. Also, and once again there were no old files/folders to delete once I'd moved them across :confused: not in the original location anyay! There WERE however 'old' files that had been shifted in the move that now temporarily, hung off my C:\temp folder. Are those the 'old' files you have been refering to please Christer?

    Thanks,
    Who..
     
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  14. 2004/09/10
    Christer

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    Hi again, who ...!

    Did You move it in Internet Explorer > Tools > Options > General > Temporary internet Files - Settings - Move folder?
    That's where I did it, not in Windows Explorer.

    It can be but I'm not sure.

    In the Temporary Internet Files folder, there is the Content.IE5 folder with four "alpha-numeric" folders. As You have found out, they do not show in the active user's TIF folder but in the TIF folders for other user accounts. These folders get hidden and unhidden at the wim of Windows.

    At that earlier time, I thought that I knew about these "alpha-numeric" folders and that there were four of them ...... :rolleyes: ...... until I checked a fragmentation report in Nortons SpeedDisk. I don't remember exactly how many but it was at least another two, possibly four that I didn't know of.

    I came to the conclusion that it was there the "stray files" from interrupted downloads end up and I cleared the mess in the way that You are trying to clear Yours but, at the time I was on WinME and it seems like it worked in a different way than WinXP.

    At the top of my reply, I said "It can be but I'm not sure ". It is, however, possible that the files left in the C:\Temp folder were "released" from the TIF folder in one way or another.

    Windows works in mysterious ways ...... :eek: ...... !

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  15. 2004/09/10
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    I am coming very late to this conversation and confess to not having read all the above.
    I have been confused about Content.IE5 in WinXP. It does not seem to do much. While I have several Content.IE5 folders, the only one that has the alphanumeric files in it is C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5, and I have never found anything in them except for a desktop.ini file.
    The Content.IE5 folders in several Documents and Settings locations have no alphanumeric files. In fact all they contain are perhaps an index.dat file and maybe a desktop.ini file.
    So I wonder what their purpose is.
    If I delete Temp and TIF I will lose all of these Content.IE5 folders but they are recreated when I reboot. (Again, for what purpose, I know not.)
    Of course in Win98 there was only one Content.IE5 folder (under Windows\Temporary Internet Files) and it contained the alphanumeric files (in multiples of four depending on how long it had been since you cleaned your cache) and they contained all the TIF files other than Cookies.
     
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  16. 2004/09/10
    Christer

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    Jim,

    there is one TIF folder for each user account plus the c:\windows\system32\ ...... :confused: ...... somewhere.
    Some have a Contents.IE5 folder, with or without the alpha-numeric subfolders. It seems like the a-n subfolders are hidden on an active account but gets unhidden when logged in to a different account.

    There are user accounts for LocalService and NetworkService and in some of these, updated certificates and stuff like that end up.

    When You clear the TIFs in IE > Tools > Options > General tab - Temporary Internet Files, You only clear the TIF folder in the active user account. I see no sense in deleting updated certificates since the first thing Windows does, is getting them back.

    Christer
     
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  17. 2004/09/10
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    Christer,
    I believe the Content.mso file you referred to earlier is created by MS Office. I can't remember exactly what it's for :confused: . I think it may be used during installations and repairs. I ran across some info on it a while ago, if I can locate it again I will post back. HTH

    B :cool:
     
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  18. 2004/09/11
    Christer

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    Thanks for that, Mr. B!

    It indicates that different subfolders may come and go in the TIF folders.

    Christer
     
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    Christer--I have four Content.IE5 folders on my PC.
    I was incorrect in my post yesterday. There is one in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofile\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files which does contain the alphanumeric files. So with the Content.IE5 file in C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Temporary Internet Files\ there are two with the alphanumeric files.
    The other two Content.IE5 folders are in
    C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
    and
    C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
    There is no Content.IE5 folder in C:\Documents and Settings\MyName\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
    Maybe I lost it, just like who_am_i did, when I emptied my TIF files??
    In any event none of these Content.IE5 folders contain anything but the odd index.dat or desktop.ini files. Nothing like the vast quantities of files Content.IE5 used to have in Win98.
    And so far I have no messages that I cannot do something because I have no Content.IE5 folder in C:\Documents and Settings\MyName\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
    So I still wonder what function these Content.IE5 folders have in WinXP.
     
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  20. 2004/09/11
    Christer

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    Jim,

    That's the first time I hear about one in that location, never seen it myself and I have checked several systems. How did it get there?

    I listed my TIF folders in an earlier post to this thread and have also wondered why there is no Content.IE5 folder with subfolders in my user account.
    Today, I was at our flying club installing SP2 on a computer which has two accounts, one administrative for me and a few other people and one limited for the Members.

    Logged in to the Members account, there were no Content.IE5 folder or sub folders for that account.

    Logged in as Administrator, I checked the C:\Documents and Settings\Members\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\ ...... and there they were ...... \ Content.IE5 with 4 alpha-numeric subfolders.

    I don't know if we are talking past eachother but I don't believe that any folders are missing. Windows simply (super-)hides them for the active account.

    Christer
     
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  21. 2004/09/11
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    Christer--
    That part of your post makes me feel better that I probably am not missing a folder. I presume you are the Adminstrator for that PC.
    Your experience at the flying club makes me feel a little worse.
    I have Windows set to Show hidden files and folders" and my Search is also set up to find Hidden files. Also I am the Administrator (and only user--so Default User is an idle folder at present on my PC). I show no Documents&Settings\Administrator\...folder, only D&S\MyName\.... I presume that is the same for you.
     
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