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    Hi all: Mike, are you saying that all entries that RegSeeker finds can be safely deleted??

    You know, with restore point and backups in place.

    On my machine it is reporting (I think) unused file types, plus 254 entries without references. Delete this stuff?? I know I can recover, but would rather not have to.

    P.S. I am that inexperienced user you referred to in your first on this utility.
     
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    mflynn Inactive Thread Starter

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    Martin and all.

    Clarification.

    Registry cleanings is not for casual use.

    If you will reread my post you will see that I did not recommend this to all, but to the experts and pros on this BBS to use to help others.

    For most users I would not do it except when you have a problem of some sort, maybe undefined, like a slow down or to clean up after a virus scanner has fixed a virus. Or after the removal of some large complex program like Norton or any Firewall etc.

    It can cause problem, but is generally very safe. Reread my original post and you will see that I have ran it on 13 different computers some more than once. No problems.

    PeteC and BillyBob and Lonnie have all run it without problems

    Also you will note in my post the extreme I went to to cleanup my own computer in prep for an Image. I actually ran 5 other Reg cleaners before running RegSeeker. No problem.

    But you know what, I knew positively that I had a backup.

    Additionally RegSeeker backs up each individual entry it deletes and they can be restored with the click of a mouse. And that is what you should do first if needed; restore the RegCleaner backup file, not a system restore. Like Lonnie did when he thought it had caused a problem, which it did not it was something else entirely.

    If they were very dangerous it would not take long to be all over the Internet. You would hear don't use this etc. Do a search on this BBS you will not see many complaints about RegCleaners. And the few you will see if you look back you will see there were other things that could have happened and the cleaner got the blame.

    I administer over 1000 computers and have to use these cleaners. I just discovered RegSeeker but I have been using EasyClean, RegCleaner, MS RegClean, Fixit RegCleaner, and System Mechanic for years so several hundred runs and I have never had a problem. They have definitely helped me many times.

    I hear more reports of registry damage from manual registry edits than from these Registry cleaners.

    In answer to your question "can they all be deleted" ?

    My answer Very very likely! Smile!

    So do it if you have a backup and rememer RegSeeker does backup all it removes. So you can put back an individual item if needed.

    Mike
     
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    Hi, Mike ~

    Thanks for your reply :D I had read your first post already and noticed the several titles, but there are multiple apps w/ the same name and some w/ very similar names and thus the reason I specified JV's Regcleaner in my query.

    I will just go try it and report back with the results. ;)
     
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    Hi all
    Mike I agree , this has a valid use especially as a recommend
    simply clear and easy, nice search features to
    BUT.

    "not a system restore. Like Lonnie did when he thought it had caused a problem, which it did not it was something else entirely "

    What else entirely?
    How could it be something else entirely ?
    No I had not used a system restore point ,I merged from the backup made by reseeker,manually since i don't see how to from within the tool, I'm considering it now though(system restore point) just to be safe and before one melts away.

    I forget how many false entries regseeker found 2-3 hundred
    and with the history old startup's over 500.

    I fail to see what the reg file is for (in my case) HTA and
    h t a f i l e, since they were not removed , I take it this is a fix for people that after using regseeker cant use add-remove programs
    OR theres no entries there .Not windows setup.

    why it targeted things like:
    AND then I did the history >old startup entries, it clearly identified things but if I look within the backup:(Ive already merged it back)
    I'm not sure what these even are, something to do with Language Auto-Selection.
    What's curious to me after having merged what regseeker removed through history old startup entries.. reboot then the same scan finds almost nothing,Keep in mind the backup it had made was 334kb .
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    I haven't tried the reg file, the only way I could get it in the proper format was to open it with UltrEdit and copy paste into
    a new txt document then save.
    So what is this tool not made for OEM computers ?
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    So unless you can tell me that the fix reg would have made available the windows setup and the other strange , I'm not going to recommend this tool ,, and if the fix would work
    not until they fix the fix.(sound familiar).
    Imagine someone not noticing there was no windows setup and their system restore point if any passed away.or not knowing what did it.
    I'll stick with JV's tools for now(1.4.0.227) RC2( i think it is)
    IT is safe if we stick with what it deems safe to remove.. :D


    Regards
    Lonny
     
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    Why does a problem with exist for some with the FixAddRemove.reg file ?

    In XP Pro I just double click on it and it asks whether I really want to do this or not. Even though I did not need it I did it anyway. And it said it had been added.

    Everything needed for making and restoring Backups made by RegSeeker is right on the main screen. Under Backups

    But it still does no harm to do a MANUAL CHECK on Restore points first. If one does not exist MAKE ONE.

    It is good that I did check SR before running RegSeeker. XP had not made one for at least 5 days.

    I also found that removing ref to such things as Nero they came right back when I used Nero. RG says the files do not exist but if they did not Nero would not run. HHHMMMMM !!!!!

    But I looked again and it was looking for files on the S: Drive. ( CD RW ) So it was actually correct. The file(s) did not exist.

    Also I keep finding refs to Winword and MS Office every time. Must be something that XP can't live without.

    BillyBob
     
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    Hi Lonnie

    I am lost on this now!

    Did RegSeeker cause a problem or not ?

    Did something quit working afterwards.

    Tell me something that it did. If it has a problem I want to know so I can retract my recommendation.

    The FixAddRemove has nothing at all to do with Regseeker. It was curupted for me even when I downloaded it. I sent an email to them telling them that someone edited it and saved it as an RTF file which can not work as a reg file.

    The FixAddRemove.reg has been around and was not written by them. It is not a part of RegSeeker but is only another fix offered by their site.

    It is not there in case Addremove is broken by RegSeeker. It only needs to be run if Add remove is broke from whatever cause.

    Is that what happened did RegSeeker kill your add/remove?

    An as for restoring the reg backups all that you need to do to restore them is click them which is what you did.

    Buddy I put it thru the acid test and I have not had a problem.

    Yeah I was a little concerned when it found 40 or 50 orphans after I had run all the others before it, 5 of the best.

    Refs to things like GIF, JPG etc.

    But when I traced them down I found they were associations for some long uninstalled program that used that association.

    You better believe I didn't automatically remove them untill I had run it on several other computers.

    Now I do look at them and may check something ocassionally but have yet to keep anything it found.

    OK everyone that has tried it has anyone had problems? BillyBob Pete, Bruce?

    Mike
     
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    " "Is that what happened did RegSeeker kill your add/remove?" "

    Yes it killed windows setup >good<.
    there support has just replied to my email ,Ive asked them to look here.
    Lonny
    PS But this is windows ME >again< with its own version of the registry..
     
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    I must admit that I was a little reluctant at first so I made sure it was setup to make backups and just let it remove a few things that I knew would do not harm. Such as refs to stuff that I knew was no longer on the machine.

    Then restored the backup to make sure it worked. And it did.

    So I ran it again and gave it the Green Light to remove everything it found. ( about 450 items ) No problems resulted.

    And as I mentioned in a previous reply, some things keep coming back. ( about 5 I believe )

    But Lonny Jones appears to be using ME.

    Mike Did you get to run RegSeeker on ME ? ME does ( or can ) have a mind of its own you know.

    BillyBob
     
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    Hi. Mike, et al ~

    Well, I downloaded RegSeeker, but before I could even install it, my 'Add/Remove Programs' is now broken. Haven't done anything except download that app. I get a 'Parser Message', "Value creation failed at line 472 ".

    How might I get this back w/o too much hassle?
     
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    BruceKrymow

    There is no install to it.

    Also if you are using WinZip is it set to open after download. ( or something like that. ) ?

    I have had that action cause me problems. The only problem I have is finding the file among 30-40 file Downloaded .ZIP files folder that they get put in after the download completes.

    I just ran in Win98SE and no problems what so ever.

    Also I see the FixAddRemove.reg is already in the .ZIP file.

    BillyBob
     
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    L. J. , I'm using CAM UnZip to extract this program (my OS is WIN98se). There are 3 extraction options boxes...One says: overwrite existing files...#2 says: recreate folders...#3 says: run setup after extraction (I always leave these 3 boxes checked).
    I did manage to extract the program files to "D" drive, but havn't found the install file yet, if there is one.
    With other Zip file programs, the program will install itself after extraction, install itself on the menu, etc. Is it not uncommon for some Zip files to not automatically install itself??

    J. M.:)
     
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    ...#3 says: run setup after extraction (I always leave these 3 boxes checked).
    I did manage to extract the program files to "D" drive, but havn't found the install file yet, if there is one.


    That * might * be the problem ( or part if it )

    There is no setup to run. And if the UNzip is looking for one IT WILL ( or may ) grab the WRONG one ( from anywhere ) if none exists in the program being un-Zipped

    Nothing to install.

    It is a complete standalone program.

    I have found through some not so nice experiences of my own that is not good to allow ZIP files to open when downloaded.

    Download them and examine them before executing.

    BillyBob
     
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    Good advice BillyBob...I presume you were talking about a virus scan before extracting the Zip file. The only scaning I've been doing was the scheduled daily virus scan...When I want to scan a file thats been saved to my computer, do I do anything different other than to start a manual scan?...I have the AVG free version.

    J. M.
     
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    Hi All: I just ran RegSeeker about an hour ago and it found 242 entries, well, it took me a few to find that right click menu is the delete. I deleted all it found, holding my breath.

    Well, so far so good, everything seems to have survived. Of course it did not fix some problems I've been having, but I was hopefull.

    I have one post working on an install problem and about to start another one on Acronis. I just keep spending $ and still have'nt got a back up program that works.

    :mad:
     
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    Hi, Billy Bob ~

    Not sure what your post means - I had no problems w/ unzipping, installing, or running RegSeeker. :confused:
     
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    Your confusing me Bruce :) Please explain


    :D Lonny
     
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    Man!

    What a weekend!

    Had to work both days installed 12 VPN tunnels at 4 seperate locations. Had 1 bad router and 1 bad modem which threw me for a while.

    Tore up both Lonnies and Bruce's OS.

    OK!

    Geeze, now almost wish I had kept this to myself.

    Bruce it sounds like specificaly the unzip process did the dirty if what you said is true.

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    "Well, I downloaded RegSeeker, but before I could even install it, my 'Add/Remove Programs' is now broken. Haven't done anything except download that app. I get a 'Parser Message', "Value creation failed at line 472 ".
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    All I can say is that if true, then that clears RegSeeker itself of causing the problem for you or Lonnie. Because untill it is executed, it cannot do this.

    Are the both of you using the same zip program, and what kind of unzip location.

    This program has no install. Extract the files move the entire tree to to \Program Files\RegSeeker. It is ready to run. Totallly a stand alone program.

    I always move any zip into an Install folder by itself before unziping. Had no problem with this.

    But to fix Bruce. It is right here in this thread, see the FixAddRemove messages in this thread. But basically the FixAddRemove.reg has been damaged by someone who edidted it in RTF format instead of text format. So get it in some editor and save it as an MSDOS text file and it will execute.

    Good luck.

    Will try to check in later.

    But Lonnie you are back to normal now, Right?

    Mike
     
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    Yep all's Abnormal again :) addremove and windows setup now works , but thats becouse I used the backups this tool made.

    Im still waiting for there support person to come here, he had said something or orother(very Kind) and was about to hit the sack, so I assume he will be by.(Mr thibaud)

    Later
    Lonny
     
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    A must have Jewel, a real keeper,
    Don’t anyone get me wrong here please, I am not trying to knock anyone here.
    I am simply trying to point out to the Experts here that beginners or intermeds are just that. Mike is a great Expert here, we all know that, but I think it has been to long since he was a beginner and has forgotten, what it is like to be on that level.
    My Point being:
    I highly recommend that the Experts and Pros on this BBS recommend this program to those that are inexperienced or intermediate especially when the registry needs to be searched.
    I did visit the website and also found this:
    Note: If after a cleanup, your Add/Remove control panel dosen’t work, just download this reg file and merge it into your registry.
    REGEDIT 4
    [HKEY_CLASSES ROOT\.htc]
    “Content Typeâ€=â€text/x-componentâ€

    [HKEY_CLASSES-ROOT\.hta]
    “Content Typeâ€=â€application/htaâ€

    Point being Mike I think you have forgotten how scary and dangerous it is for a beginner to do that.

    I am sure this program is just as you say a Bottler but not for the inexperienced.

    Just my point of view
    Hawk22
     
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    When using Winzip as I do there no real need to even unzip it.

    It works fine right from Winzip. But it is best to unzip it into a folder as then it makes the Backup folder for itself also.

    Also the FixAddRemove.reg work fine from within Winzip.

    This is not a recommended procdure but it does work.

    James Martin

    I was not really referring to Virus check. That should already have been done while downloading.

    I was referring to looking at the actual file names. And see what it maybe adding to the machine. Look at the .ini file ( if there is one. )

    mflynn

    Mike there is no reason in the world for you to feel bad. Every dam one us knows ( or dam well should ) that when testing new programs things can go wrong. And MANY times the problems are user or machine (or settings on same ) related. If we have moved stuff around, added/removed something, or renamed something or even maybe changed settings it can cause confusion for most anything. That is why we stress STRONGLY. Make sure you have a BACKUP made BEFORE testing new software. That is the FIRST thing I checked in XP Pro AND Win98SE before I even downloaded RegSeeker.

    Just because it worked well for Mike and others does NOT mean it will work or not cause problems for me. And I know full well that I have made changes to the settings in XP Pro.

    I forgot who but one member that is having problem may be using Windows ME. There is my answer for his problems. I had ME for 4 days and had more ACTUAL PROBLEMS than I have had with XP Pro in over a Month.

    I did not even make it past this PC this morning so it is Coffee time.

    BillyBob
     
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