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A First Look at Windows 8 "Blue"

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by Arie, 2013/04/11.

  1. 2013/05/10
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    does this still work tor restart shutdown -r -t 0
     
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    Yes.


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    shutdown /?|more

    (and press [Enter]) at a cmd prompt to see all of the available options.
     

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    Very neat! Got one for a Restart too? The gymnastics necessary to do a restart these days - on a desktop without a touch screen - are fascinating, but not terribly intuitive, either.

    Too many hoops to jump through to get there. I did find a method a few steps shorter, but not as easy as Start ... slide mouse over to the options and choose Restart.

    But I do love your kludge [please, take that as a compliment!].

    OH WOW! I just saw the next response and am looking at the options from a Command Prompt (how I miss DOS).

    Cheers!
     
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    Thanks Alex. :)
     
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    Learning can be Fun and Dangerous

    If I understand this correctly, using "-g" instead of "-r" will start up those apps in the Startup Folder, when the system restarts.

    And retaining the "-t 0" will give it a zero delay to restart.

    But will "-hybrid" make any difference at all? And why do they use the forward slash "/ ", rather than the minus sign?​

    So while at the CMD prompt, I created an old and dear friend, the xx.bat file, which has only one line: @exit - which allows me to type xx and enter, to close the CMD prompt window. I used to have only one "x" but somehow it failed, once XP Pro came out.:D

    Again, my thanks for teaching an old dog new tricks!

    Cheers!
     
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    Microsoft's brief explanation for the "/g" parameter is:
    Full shutdown and restart the computer. After the system is rebooted, restart any registered applications.
    And I'm not sure that the "restart any registered applications" means "start up those apps in the Startup Folder ".



    Correct, an abbreviation for /time delay of 0 (zero) seconds.



    It must make some difference or it wouldn't be an option. The brief explanation for the "/hybrid" parameter is:
    Performs a shutdown of the computer and prepares it for fast startup.
    Must be used with /s option.
    I'd have to experiment with it to see what difference that "fast startup" makes.



    That dates back to MS-DOS. Microsoft used the "\" (backslash) as a path delimiter and the "/" (slash|forward slash) to indicate the start of a command line parameter. (I.e. Typing "dir /p" will pause the directory listing after each screenful of information).



    I've been doing pretty much the same thing for years, [XP through 8], however: 1) it's named "x.bat" and 2) it's stored in "c:\windows\system32" so that it's in the PATH.



    No problem. Still learning here as well. :)
     
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    Thanks Doc. I did remember the / versus \ part and reasons for each. It was my curiosity at why they use / when describing an option, but use - to actually use that option. I guess because if they did use the minus sign, or hyphen, then every time you looked for help, you would end up causing the command to execute ...

    So, I'm going to try it out as soon as I finish this response.

    Again, thanks.

    Alex
     
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    Many Operating Systems that end with "x ", (Aix, Unix, Linux, etc.), use the "-" (dash|minus sign) to indicate the beginning of a command line parameter. In Windows it's a "/" (slash), although a "-" will work with some commands. For example try:

    dir /p
    dir -p​

    or

    time /t
    time -t​

    or

    cd /?
    cd -?​
     
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    And all those years I played with DOS, writing Batch and command files, I only used the slash.

    Now I learn another new thing and it's a good thing, too, as I've been playing with the Shutdown commands, trying to get the combination I need for each machine. Even the laptop running Vista and what's interesting is that the two OSes have slightly different flags/options.

    I know it sounds strange, but this is the kind of stuff that made me love working on computers ... so long ago.

    Thanks again, guys.

    Cheers!
     
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    Still have my old IBM PC 5150 [stamp (B)] and IBM Portable PC 5155 around somewhere . . . :)
     
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    Wow! 5150 is the old AT, isn't it? I worked on those and the original XT models, back when I started working with PCs and compatibles ... except that there were no real compatibles when those two dinosaurs roamed the land.

    Really takes me back; thanks for the run down (limited) memory lane. But back then, having a 20MB HD was incredible. We couldn't figure out how we'd ever use that much room. And if we had 512K of RAM, that was incredible!

    Bring back the Intel AboveBoard! Seriously, I have so many extra memory strips - 4GB I got from Crucial to replace the 2GB I had, 2 DIMMs each - that would boost this puppy big time.

    Aaah, memories.

    Cheers!
     
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    No no, back before that.

    IBM Personal Computer model 5150 Wednesday, April 12, 1981.
    IBM Personal Computer/XT model 5160 Tuesday, March 8, 1983.
    IBM Portable Personal Computer 5155 Wednesday, February 29, 1984.
    IBM Personal Computer/AT model 5170 Wednesday, August 15, 1984.
     
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    Microsoft has confirmed that Windows 8.1 will be a free upgrade available from the Windows Store.

    Also announced that a public preview of Windows 8.1 available starting on June 26.
     
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    Good to hear there has finally been confirmation, but as expected, Windows upgrades, (like Win 7 SP-1, etc.), remain to be free.
     
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    Okay, so I started working with PCs, with the original XT, in about 1985 or so. Then we started bringing in ATs. My life's never been the same ...

    Cheers!
     
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    The advent of "personal computing" has altered zillions of lives. :)
     
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    Which is why my humble consulting company is named Oxymoron Unlimited, because "Personal Computer" is an Oxymoron!

    Cheers!
     
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    :)

    . . .
     
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    Is Windows 8.1 = "Blue "?
     
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    IvanH That is correct
     

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