1. You are viewing our forum as a guest. For full access please Register. WindowsBBS.com is completely free, paid for by advertisers and donations.

Resolved High Hardware with Low performance!

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by memo5200, 2013/08/03.

  1. 2013/08/06
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    Sorry, but how much RAM do you have? You said in your opening post,
    If only 4Gb, that will surely be a bottleneck for a 8-core CPU.
     
  2. 2013/08/06
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    its not ram issue because assassin's creed 3 or tomb radier 2013 doesnt consume the whole 4gb of ram
     

  3. to hide this advert.

  4. 2013/08/06
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    Not providing requested pertinent information just creates delays for YOU getting a resolution to your problem. I mean, we can wait for days or months for your problem to be fixed and not affect us. If you want help, you have to help us help you.

    So I ask again, do you only have 4Gb of RAM installed? If so, and if your system is otherwise fine, that is, no malware, fully updated, no errors in Device Manager, plenty of free disk space (even more critical with little RAM and a heavily tasked page file), then I suggest that is your problem, or at least is a big part of your problem.

    Please also understand that RAM performance is NOT determined just by how any particular program uses it. Windows itself, your security applications, networking, graphics, and all your hardware is using some of your RAM, just to run - even if idle. If you only have 4Gb of RAM, then even on a good day it is highly likely Windows is forced to shuffle significant chunks of data into and out of your page file sitting on your slow hard drive. And I hope you have left the PF settings alone, and are allowing Windows to manage it.

    And anytime Windows and your CPU uses the page file because there isn't enough RAM to play around in, performance WILL be impacted - adversely.

    You have an 8 core CPU, each running at 3.1GHz. 4Gb of RAM provides an average of just a measly 512Mb of RAM per core. Does that sound like enough to you? It sure doesn't to me.

    Assuming the information in your "My System" profile is correct (where it again says just 4Gb), you have 64-bit Windows. That is great for it happily and eagerly will accept and utilize more RAM so I recommend you double yours to 8Gb, at least - and you do so as soon as possible. I assure you, you WILL notice a significant improvement in performance.

    Please note, we are all here to help. I am not asking for this information to waste anybody's time, or to give anyone a hard time.
     
    Last edited: 2013/08/06
  5. 2013/08/06
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    Bill , I mentioned many times that I had 4GB of Ram...anyway I know u trying to help and I didn't mean to be an obstacle here is the full Info of my RAM

    Brand :G.skill
    Capacity :4GB
    Type: DDR3
    Max Bandwidth:pC3-12800 (800MHz)
    Part Number: F3-12800CL9-4GBRL

    and about CPU and Ram Usage here are print-screens view my status during playing Assassin's Creed 3

    CPU Usage
    RAM Usage

    If you notice am not even consuming half power of both RAM and CPU which made me crazy and that's why I've said its not normal .
    another thing I've sense you don't believe what am saying about my system , how that could help me if i gave you fake information ?!!? it doesn't make any sense.
    here is all of my CPUZ screenshot and the full report

    CPU
    Cach
    Mainboard
    Memory
    SPD
    Graphics

    your void assumption wont help if you did it with everyone ask for help even if it was just an assumption :D
    Last Question: How supposed to my RAM isn't enough though I don't use the half ?!
     
  6. 2013/08/06
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    Full Report of CPUZ :
    Download
    Scan Report
    Couldn't Copy and paste it because it has many letters
     
  7. 2013/08/06
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2004/06/25
    Messages:
    7,214
    Likes Received:
    514
    Hi memo5200, can you give more detail about your HD? (WD Blue 500GB)
    How about Model number or speed cache etc.
    A Google suggests HD may cause a slowdown when gaming. Neil.
     
    memo5200 likes this.
  8. 2013/08/06
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    Hardware ID:IDE\DiskWDC_WD1600AABS-00L8A0___________________01.03E01
    Friendly Name:WDC WD1600AABS-00L8A0 ATA Device
    HDD:160 Western Digital Caviar
    LBA:312581808
    Color : Blue

    to be accurate FPS Range of any game no matter which game I play is :10~22 which is so sick :(
     
  9. 2013/08/07
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

    Joined:
    2001/12/27
    Messages:
    15,174
    Likes Received:
    412
    Just have a look here. Can you say SLOW?!!

    Also, in you profile you list 500GB, but you only have a 160GB drive. SATA-300 (I), Average seek time 15.0 ms



    Also, 4GB is not nearly enough to get a good performing 64-bit Windows system.
     
  10. 2013/08/07
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2004/06/25
    Messages:
    7,214
    Likes Received:
    514
    Thanks for your input Arie. I had suspicions about HD specs as RAM was also insufficient for gaming with that CPU. BILL has already covered RAM in his Post.

    I think you have a need to upgrade a couple of items memo5200 to be competitive with your mates. Neil.
     
    memo5200 likes this.
  11. 2013/08/07
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    Sorry Arie I didn't Upgrade the HDD information I didn't thought HDD could affect the whole performance specially gaming


    Thanks Neil You afford pest u can I really appreciate it

    But I have last question for you guys after checking benchmark list of high ends with price compare :eek: I notice ,to assemble a good pc compete xbox360 is almost impossible :mad:... so am thinking instead of upgrading my RAM and HDD which may not give me the performance I expect buying Xbobx360 Slim , what you think ?:confused:
     
  12. 2013/08/07
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    Ummm, sorry, but no you didn't (and I just read through this thread again). You told us what type RAM, but other than your opening post, which was not clear, and your system specs, which are not always accurate or current, no mention of how much RAM. That's why I asked.

    I kept asking the question because I did NOT want to assume.

    Did you notice in your memory screenshot the "Committed" value of 7.5Gb? That tells me Windows has mapped out nearly twice as many memory locations in virtual memory (physical RAM plus the Page File) as your installed RAM - which means your slow hard drive is being used a lot. That tells me you could greatly benefit from 8Gb of RAM.
     
  13. 2013/08/07
    SpywareDr

    SpywareDr SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2005/12/31
    Messages:
    3,752
    Likes Received:
    338

    1. Post #1

    2. Post #9

    3. Post #22
     
    memo5200 likes this.
  14. 2013/08/07
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    heheheheh I dunno why he can't see it , I wrote it down all over the thread :)
    thanks SpywareDr for support :D



    Fine , I need 1 more 4GB ram and new hard drive , if I bought those would give me gaming experience like XBOX360 ?
     
  15. 2013/08/07
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2004/06/25
    Messages:
    7,214
    Likes Received:
    514
    Yes, you did show 4GB.:D
    I'm not familiar with XBox360 or any of the gaming machines, but, do those machines run a FULL OS with all the background systems???

    I think you would have to stop as much of your OS and systems to be competitive with any Dedicated Gaming unit. Cheers Neil.
     
  16. 2013/08/07
    memo5200

    memo5200 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2009/05/21
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    1
    you Misunderstand me Neil I wont run a emulator or something like so , I meant buying the original product of XBOX360 :D
     
  17. 2013/08/08
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    Yes, 4G is in the model number, but in Post 1 and Post 9, you do not say how many sticks. does not say how many. And it was your post 22 where you said 4G and the games that got my attention - hence my reason to clarify - since it appeared no one before then picked up on the fact you were only using 4G.

    My apologies for adding to your frustration but I did not want you fixing something else that might not be broken.
     
  18. 2013/08/08
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2004/06/25
    Messages:
    7,214
    Likes Received:
    514
    This what you are referring to memo?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360

    I'm not a "Games" person, so you will have to be lenient with me. A computer to me is a tool for communicating and learning and that is my game. Neil.
     
  19. 2013/08/09
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    As it is for most computer users.
     
  20. 2013/08/09
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2002/01/11
    Messages:
    3,369
    Likes Received:
    411
    @memo5200 - Another important, but overlooked factor about the bottleneck created by your single stick of RAM is the fact your Gigabyte GA-990FXA-D3 motherboard supports dual-channel memory architecture to, in effect, double the bandwidth of your RAM to help your RAM keep up with your CPU. But it ONLY works when two like memory sticks are installed in the proper slots. By using just a single stick, you have forced your motherboard to use single channel memory mode - halving your RAM's potential.

    So by using only 4Gb of RAM, you are choking your 64-bit Windows. And by using only a single stick of RAM, you are choking your RAM performance, which in turn, chokes your CPU's performance. And if the CPU is being choked due to a lack of working space (RAM) it cannot hand off tasks to your graphics solution in a timely manner.

    With such a fine motherboard, CPU and graphics card, it is a shame to see all that wonderful computing horsepower being sidelined due a lack of inexpensive RAM. :(
     
  21. 2013/08/09
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

    Joined:
    2004/06/25
    Messages:
    7,214
    Likes Received:
    514
    I agree Bill. One more stick of RAM and set correctly in BIOS and memo will fly. Neil. ;)
     
    memo5200 likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.