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Best "C" Drive setup for speed

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by stuartsjg, 2009/11/10.

  1. 2009/11/10
    stuartsjg

    stuartsjg Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi,

    Im getting increasingly annoyed at the speed of my C drive. Copying anything from or too the drive gives me read/write speeds of less than 10MB/sec. The drive is only 2/3 full and doesnt look too fragmented

    This is upsetting when i have a pair of Samsung F3 1TB drives and i get over 100MB/sec between them.

    The C drive runs Vista Pro 64 on a Phenomn X3 8650 with 4Gb RAM.

    Obviously the slowness of the C drive (which is SATA but 1.5Gb/sec and about 4 years old) will be slowing down my OS and loading of software.

    Looking to replace it with something faster.

    I looked to SSD but the money is silly!

    I looked at the 10000RPM WD velociraptor drives but again cost seams high.

    I'm almost wondering if i would be better buying two fast 250-500Gb drives and having them in RAID 0 mode for combined size and speed. The increased data vulnerability of RAID 0 doesn't bother me as i have nothing of value on the C drive, all my precious data is kept on separate drives.

    Looking at the 10000RPM WD drives, i can get two Samsung F3 1TB for the cost of one WD 300Gb drive!

    What do you folks here think i would be best with?

    Stuart
     
  2. 2009/11/10
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

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    Fully agree

    Hmm... Define high? I see the 150GB WD VR drive on Newegg @ $160.00

    Yea, as long as you know the risks of RAID 0...

    If you are comfortable with Samsung, go with it.

    Me I choose to go with SAS. Got 2 Fujitsu MBA3147RC 147GB 15,000 RPM 16MB SCSI (SAS) drives, and running them in RAID 0. But these drives cost $$$, right now I see them listed around $150 on eBay (5 year warranty).

    SAS drives obviously also require a controller, I choose a motherboard that supports SAS, but these are also high in price.
     
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    stuartsjg

    stuartsjg Inactive Thread Starter

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    I had looked at SSD. Its the value aspect of it.

    I can get a 1TB drive with over 100MB/sec R/W for the price of a 32Gb SSD, yes it can work twice as fast with 10-20times the seak times, but even then, its 30X the price!

    I was thinking of a few options:

    Have the boot/OS/Program Files/Temp drive as two RAID 0 drives (understanding the risks but not fussed as there is no valuable data on them).

    -or-

    Using the two 1TB drives i have, buy another 3 giving me 5Tb, buy a decent hardware RAID card (such as £120 HighPoint RocketRAID 2680LF). Put the lot together on RAID 5 (i know the write speed isnt so fast but faster than one drive). I would set the whole 4TB (+1Tb partity) up as a 4TB array, then partition this to C drive and my data drives.

    I seen: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/10tb-hdd-raid,2344.html and that looks fun! But excessive and needs a pricey RAID card.

    Perhaps with the 5 drives, i could achieve at least both sequential 200MB/sec read and write?

    Another idea i had to speed things up more was to add a small 16-32Gb SSD drive again with data rate around the 200MB/sec mark (not part of the RAID array) and use this for temp files/scratch disk/pagefile etc?

    Total costs would be:
    £180 for 3 new HDD's
    £120 for the 8 port hardware RAID card
    ?£100? for the SSD
    Total = £400

    Any thoughts on this folks?

    Stuart
     
  6. 2009/11/18
    Arie

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    Sorry, I missed this thread.

    The only question I have is why a hardware RAID card? Do you have an existing motherboard you intend to use that doesn't offer RAID?

    For the rest it'll be matching your budget with the possibilities :)
     
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    Steve_S

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    Consider...

    Something to consider is the new Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB Hard Drive. A very detailed review with benchmarks at:

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...gital-caviar-black-2tb-hard-drive-review.html

    I purchased mine from TigerDirect for $300 USD and it was in stock. Runs a bit hoter than my WD VelocityRaptor 10k and is certainly NOT "green ". About 5 degrees and I don't notice or even hear the beast running. If you can wait, this new WD drive is sure to drive down the costs of the 10K drives they offer. I cringe when I think what I paid for the 10K which is about the same price as this new WD drive. Ouch :)

    HTH
     
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    Athlonite

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    if all you want is a 2x hdd setup for the boot drive just get a couple of cheap WD2500aajs drives and use the mobo's onboard sata raid to form a raid0 array then store everything else on other HDD's
     
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    stuartsjg

    stuartsjg Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the suggestions folks,

    I would probably be OK running a RAID 0 from the MB as my "C" drive, i wounldt want to run a RAID 5 array from the MB due to the drain of CPU resources doing the RAID 5 work.

    Im still looking into it.

    Thanks again :)

    Stuart
     
  10. 2009/11/26
    Athlonite

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    what processor do you have stuart
     
  11. 2009/11/26
    stuartsjg

    stuartsjg Inactive Thread Starter

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    Its an Athlon 64bit 8650 3 Core.

    Thanks,
    Stuart
     
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    Athlonite

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    you'd most likely not even notice a drain on that cpu while using raid 5 maybe if it you had an old single core then you might
     
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    Athlonite

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    but saying that most south bridge based sata controllers aren't going to support raid5 more like raid 0, 1, 0+1, 10, JBOD
     
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    stuartsjg, please enter your System Details. It helps us in answering your questions!
     

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