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Windows Vista More Vista boot issues

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by spooky24, 2009/09/30.

  1. 2009/09/30
    spooky24

    spooky24 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Everytime Vista boots it ask me to choose the boot devise

    either;

    HD
    SATA-the real boot disc
    DVD
    Printer

    Using the Vista disc repair option does nothing, reinstalling Vista has no effect.
    The machine runs fine but this is really getting anoying. I have tried changing the settings in the BIOS but still it ask everytime. I reinstalled Vista on a another drive and it still does it-just don't understand.This machine has run flawless since Vista was installed about a year ago.
    Again, using the repair option from the Vista disc will not fix it-since that is the answer everyone else seen to swear in blood will fix it. Or they try to sell me some stupid program.

    spook
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    That's a BIOS Boot Sequence issue. Go in and set it to the Hard Drive.
     

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    spooky24

    spooky24 Inactive Thread Starter

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    No-it is set to the SATA hard drive, which is the bootdisc that is what is so confusing.
     
  5. 2009/10/01
    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    It sounds like a BIOS boot sequence to me as well. Look in the motherboard manual for options for the boot sequence. If it cannot find the first boot option, it might be set to offer all options.

    Printer? :D
     
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    spooky24

    spooky24 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Why can't any "experts" help with this other than just telling things I already know and bypassing it because they are afraid too be wrong and look silly-well you look silly not trying to help as well.

    I am going to try this one more time:

    I have gotten Easy BCD and followed the instructions and made a new bootloader file has no effect.
    I found the manual on the disc that came with the board when I installed it about a year ago. It only says to redo the boot sequence by shorting the CMOS jumpers and clearing the BIOS which I did. Also, I followed the advise and removed the board battery and checked it with a volt meter-in addition I removed everything from the system but the boot SATA disc and restarted to create a new BIOS for Vista to use. It still ask for me to choose a boot devise
    everytime I load the machine-only now there is only one-I still must hit enter for Vista to load-can anyone solve this?
     
  7. 2009/10/01
    Arie

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    We don't seem to be very smart....
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Even though you not very thankfull kind of guy - I'll try again:

    This has Nothing to do with the hard drive OR Windows and EVERYTHING to do with the BIOS just like I mentioned the first time around.

    Have you looked in the BIOS at the boot sequence?
     
  9. 2009/10/01
    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    At first I was going to suggest looking at Windows settings, you can if you want.

    At the Start -> Search type in msconfig and open msconfig.exe. Look at the Boot tab and see if there are any other listings apart from Windows.

    Check in Control Panel -> System -> Advanced System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Startup and Recovery -> Settings button and look at the drop down list (should be the same as msconfig).

    Have you installed another operating system and subsequently uninstalled it. For example, Windows 7 or a version of Linux?

    It could be a separate third party bootloader. They work fine while they are required, when you don't need them any more they are a PITA to remove. I will leave it up to memory if you have ever installed one (apart from the one you used to try and fix the problem).

    Those are the only other things I can think of investigating.

    Matt
     
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    spooky24

    spooky24 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks Mattman for a good answer with information I can use. That might be the issue(a unused bootloader file) but how to find and remove it-and where did it come from. There has never been anything else installed on this machine(OS) and I have cleared the BIOS(shorting the CMOS jumpers16-17) and rewritten it-or the chipset did-and it shows no other OS anywhere. The new BIOS information is exact and correct as it should be-that is why I am searching for a Windows answer because I believe I have shown the hardware is correct.
    The thing that is really puzzling is the fact the the BIOS shows the SATA in parentheses and I know that is not correct-I have never encountered anything like this and am simply searching for answers. Once you clear the hardware as the problem it must be Windows. Perhaps, it is writing something of a bootfile when it shuts down and the BIOS needs a choice each time it loads. That sounds far fetched but it makes some sense.
    I apologize if I hurt anyone feelings it is just that I don't build machines anymore
    nor do I have much to do with computers at all. After a while they get oh-so boring. I don't keep up with what is going on so I am very much off the loop. I really don't have time for a computer problem that is minor but is very nagging. I thought I would just ask the question here and get a simple solution, fix it and forget it. If this board can't solve it and the question needs more experienced Windows advise just say so-I don't have a problem admitting I need help on a problem I don't understand-some here should get off their self-made high horse and realize they don't know it all.
    Here-I just said I don't understand the issue and don't have a solution.
    Perhaps, some here could do the same without bruising their precious pride.

    sp
     
  11. 2009/10/01
    mattman

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    I had a sure bet you were going to make an apology, because it seemed only out of frustration. Apology accepted, we do try our best, but need your (rational) feedback on our suggestions to possibly come up with any others.

    I am still mainly in Steve's camp. Clearing the CMOS will take settings back to default and the default boot sequence might be the cause of the problem. Can you possibly point us to a download of your motherboard manual/User Guide so that we can see if there is anything lost in the technical details? [Please note: we encourage all questioners to add their system specifications to their profile http://www.windowsbbs.com/adding_system_specifications.html] Clearing the CMOS is not the usual method of resetting the boot sequence or for that matter, setting a new boot sequence.

    Did you get to check the boot listings I pointed to? That would be the first port of call.

    You know what? I avoid third party boot loaders like the plague. I have only wrestled with one(!), the first and last for me. Now you can call me dumb :D because I have very little experience extracting them and I remember going to the suppliers website to look for uninstallation procedures, but ended up empty handed. Sorry, I can't remember the outcome. They are offered at download websites. Partition management programs offer them. Drive utility programs might offer them (maybe something like Norton Utilities).

    Anyway, check those things (see if you can find specific boot sequence settings in the BIOS, it might be termed "Boot Order" or something else, it might be under a Startup heading or buried in a sub-menu. BIOSes are made by different manufacturers so we can't guide you unless we might find it in your manual).

    Thanks for the explanation.

    Matt
     
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    mattman

    mattman Inactive Alumni

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    I glossed over the last part of your post. I think you know we will help you if we can.
     
  13. 2009/10/02
    spooky24

    spooky24 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the peptalk-I was frustrated.

    I finally got through to FXF Grforce and it turns out I had bought and registered several boards with them, so they were happy to help
    It turns out that in Windows Vista a new printer(I have an office complex that has all-fax,print scan, copy, payroll checks and so on) can give the indication of a boot devise. It now seems that I got an update for this complex from Lexmark about 2 weeks ago-just when this started. It was an update because my card reader(for still photos and other things related to payroll) was not working like they advertised it would. It seems quite silly but the card reader(from the office machine) was mistaken for a boot devise. That is why it was asking for a boot devise-even with the office machine unhooked. Because of this the tech-Eric- told me to change keyboards with another machine and restart-----and WaLa--it's fixed. It no longer ask for a boot devise on start up. I ask Eric to send me information on this in detail later.
    I'm somewhat embarrassed and stunned by this since I had no clue what was causing the problem. I did ask Eric to explain if it was hardware or a Windows issue-he said it was both, mainly because it only occurs in Vista. I wonder if MS even knows about this-my guess is no.
    Anyway, thanks for hanging in there with me-changing the keyboard?????-I feel like a total ******* but hey, I learned something.

    spook
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    That's a pretty weird deal. Glad you got it sorted.
     
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    I've marked this thread as 'Resolved'.

     

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