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Whats The Best Way To Migrate From an Old Hard Drive To A New One?

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  1. 2004/11/22
    SeanGil

    SeanGil Inactive Thread Starter

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    I would like to copy all the programs and data from 1 drive to another
    and keep everything intact. Is there a way to do this? It would be copying from a C drive to an F drive then I would like to rename the F to C

    Thanks

    Sean
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Hello Sean!

    Buy a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. (I don't know where You live but I guess they come cheap these days.) Read up in the manual on Disk to Disk cloning.

    Install Ghost on the old HDD and have the wizzard create a Standard Ghost Boot Disk.

    Do some housecleaning on the old HDD;
    - delete temp files, including temporary internet files
    - delete cookies
    - delete history
    - defragment

    Shut down the computer and after jumpering it as Cable Select, connect the new HDD as Primary Slave.

    Put in the Standard Ghost Boot Disk and start the computer. Do a Disk to Disk clone from the old HDD to the new HDD.

    When the task is completed, DO NOT LET GHOST RESET THE COMPUTER but shut it down on the power switch.

    Remove the old HDD and connect the new HDD as Primary Master. Restart the computer. The new HDD will automatically become C:.

    After the computer has been started once on the new HDD alone, You can connect the old HDD as Primary Slave and use it for backups or whatever. Don't forget to change the jumpering to Cable Select.

    (Your computer may be old and not able to handle Cable Select jumpering. If that's the case, jumper as Master or Slave but don't forget to change it when changing the position of the HDD's.)

    Christer
     
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    Chuck_W

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    I would put my vote for Drive Image as it has worked well for me. Whats the deal with not letting Ghost shut down the computer?
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Hello Chuck!

    I guess that any flavor of imaging software will do the job. I don't know how simple it is with the others but "simple" probably means "what I'm used to ".

    If Ghost was shutting down only, it would be OK but it actually resets/restarts the computer. The new HDD, connected as Primary Slave, will get drive letters that do not fit with the boot.ini file. I don't remember the exact details but depending on which OS, there may be problems with the computer not booting from the new HDD once it is connected as Primary Master.

    When I did the operation a while ago, I followed the advice to not let Ghost reset the computer and to remove the old HDD and connect the new HDD as Primary Master before restarting.

    For once ...... :rolleyes: ...... I did as I was told and the computer worked well with the new HDD as Primary Master. Subsequently, the old HDD was connected as Primary Slave, reformated and is in use for backups.

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    SeanGil

    SeanGil Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for all the info. 1more question. What if I want to move it onto the new drive but in a specific partition. Is that possible with any of these programs?

    Sean
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    Ghost can clone Partition to Partition. You would need to connect the new HDD as Primary Slave and partition it from within Windows. You would basically take the same steps as in my previous description but P to P and not D to D.

    I am not 100% sure that the new HDD would boot after a P to P cloning but I believe that all boot sectors get copied to the cloned HDD.

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    As an aside:

    My own backup strategy is to create images of the system partition, Partition to Image. The images are created to a different partition and a different HDD. (Yes, I have duplicate images.)

    If I should need to replace the Primary Master, I would have to connect the new one, and install Windows XP fresh to do the partitioning. Next, I would restore the most recent image.

    In Your case, Sean, if the computer doesn't start from the P to P cloned HDD;

    - connect the old HDD as Primary Master and the new HDD as Primary Slave,

    - create a Partition to Image of the system partition. Create it to a partition on the Primary Slave but not the intended new system partition,

    - remove the old HDD and connect the new HDD as Primary Master,

    - start the computer with the XP-CD in the tray and do a clean install and when finished,

    - restore the image of the old C: to the new C:

    (I do believe that P to P will render a bootable system but if not ...... :eek: ...... there are more ways to try.)

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    SeanGil

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    Thanks again for the info Christer. The problem Im going to have is the XP disc is an upgrade disc so if I did it that way I would first have to install Win98 the XP so I was hoping of just copying 1 drive to the other and hoped everything worked out. Dont know if this will cause more problems though. Ive decided not to copy to a partition fearing that will cause more problems.


     
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    Christer

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    No need for that, just install WinXP directly and when prompted for verification of a previous OS version, temporarily insert the Win98-CD.

    Christer
     
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    SeanGil

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    Oh wow ok. Didnt know it would be that easy


     
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    Clone Maxx will allow you to clone to whatever partition you choose, too.
     
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    Christer

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    Abraxas,

    Is that from experience?

    The below is from clone maxx FAQ :

    Christer
     
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    SeanGil

    SeanGil Inactive Thread Starter

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    Has anyone tried Acronis MigrateEasy 6? Reading up on it sounds like exactly what Im looking for
     
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    Abraxas

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    Well, Christer, I didn't actually go through with a cloning but just booted from the CD to see what sort of interface it had. I was pretty sure that partitions were listed, but with your information, I must have been thinking of a different program. If it turns out otherwise (I'll have to try it now), I'll let you know.

    Thanks for pointing that out.
     
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