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Resolved XP stopped running

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by BillyWPB, 2009/07/10.

  1. 2009/07/10
    BillyWPB

    BillyWPB Inactive Thread Starter

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    a friends comp stopped working the other night. It would get to the windows xp traveling dot startup screen. Then the monitor would flash the no signal screen, then the start up would repeat.. again and again.

    I used SPOTMAU and another bood disk to determine that every thing was running, dvd drive, memory, monitor, networking. every but the hard drive.

    All attempts to clone or image the hard drive failed, 7 to 9 minutes in.

    A new 250 G hard drive was gotten (SATA) and installed.

    Today I can not get Windows to run at all.

    The boot disk I used yesterday stops after the 'Booting from cd... "
    A Windows XP Pro installation cd stops after the same message.
    I am left with a black screen.

    Spotmau does work, but that is a linix (?) based os.

    HELP HELP HELP

    Please
     
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    Can you reinstall the old HD for testing?
     
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    BillyWPB

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    Step 2

    Yes, the old drive can be reinstalled.

    My friend thought that maybe the professionals could help. Went to CompUSA.
    49.99 just to look at it, and up from there. My friend uses her comp to read email and play some music, she does not need 8 gigs of ram, quad pros, a 1 T hard drive as tech guy was suggesting.
    Tech guy did suggest that it might have been a virus that wiped the boot files. He also suggested disconnecting the card reader, 250 G HD and retrying the old HD after virus checking and backing up.

    I have installed the 100 G drive as an external drive on my own comp. My Computer reports that the new drive is:

    1) LOCAL DISK (N) LOCAL DISK ---- ---- ------
    2) PRESARIO_RP (L) LOCAL DISK 6.95 GB 1.64 GB FAT32

    Trying to access Local Disk N gets me a pop up window telling me that it is unformatted, do I want to format.
    trying to access PRESARIO_RP tells me that it is a recovery disk DONT TOUCH!!!!
    I am scanning with Restorer 2000 and AVG 8

    Restorer returned these:

    1) Warning File System Unexpected MFT record 7 at 491908096. If you . are scanning RAID and this message will reappear . constantly, check RAID for consistence.

    2) Error Disk Read disk N: at position 3272234496 failed after 10 . . attempts. Data error (cyclic redundancy check) . . (23).

    AVG reports:
    Scan "Scan specific files or folders" was finished.
    No infection was found during this scan
    Folders selected for scanning:; "L:\;N:\; "
    Scan started:; "Saturday, July 11, 2009, 7:55:44 AM "
    Scan finished:; "Saturday, July 11, 2009, 8:13:46 AM (18 minute(s) 1 second(s)) "
    Total object scanned:; "399052 "
    User who launched the scan:; "HP_Administrator "
     
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  5. 2009/07/11
    wildfire

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    Thanks Bill,

    That helps a lot. :)

    Can you determine the make manufacturer of the 100Gb drive and download the appropriate disk Diagnostic Software ....

    ExcelStore

    Hitachi/IBM

    Samsung

    Seagate, Maxtor, Quantum

    Western Digital

    Do a non destructive surface scan and let us know the results. By the way it would'nt hurt to let us know the make/model of the drive either ;)
     
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  6. 2009/07/12
    BillyWPB

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    The Drive

    The drive is a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 - Model 6L100MO - 100 GB SAT150
    I ran PC Doctor 5 full Hard Drive test. It passed the Random Seek, Funnel Seek, Surface Scan Test and Surface Scan test 2.

    The computer is a COMPAQ Presario SR1710NX, AMD Sempron 3400, running XP Home SP3. 1.2 Gs ram. Used mainly to access email and play music. Has AVG 8 installed but the computer was usually turned on, email read, turned off. Rarely left on for more than 10 or 15 minutes at a time.

    Still trying to backup with Restorer 2000

    Downloaded Sea Tools. Results:
    Firmware Revision: BACE1G10
    Identify - Started 7/12/2009 1:49:54 AM
    Identify - Pass 7/12/2009 1:49:57 AM
    Test Unavailable - Test Unavailable 7/12/2009 1:55:17 AM
    Long DST - Started 7/12/2009 1:56:14 AM
    Long DST - FAIL 7/12/2009 2:01:22 AM
    Short DST - Started 7/12/2009 2:01:56 AM
    Short DST - FAIL 7/12/2009 2:02:10 AM
    Test Unavailable - Test Unavailable 7/12/2009 2:02:29 AM
    Short Generic - Started 7/12/2009 2:03:05 AM
    Short Generic - Pass 7/12/2009 2:04:46 AM
    Long Generic - Started 7/12/2009 2:05:12 AM
    Bad LBA: 21010233 Not Repaired
    Long Generic - FAIL 7/12/2009 2:38:07 AM
     
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  7. 2009/07/12
    PeteC

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    The SeaTools results suggest that the drive has failed - were any error codes reported by SeaTools?

    As the computer is not running RAID - single hard drive, the first report from Restorer suggests a problem with the Master File Table (MFT).

    At what stage exactly does an install of XP stop on the new drive? I have 2 thoughts here ....

    If it gets to the blue install screens - the second I think - press F6 to load SCSI, etc drivers - this includes the SATA drivers. If there is no floppy drive ....

    Install Windows XP on SATA without a Floppy (F6)

    If it does not get that far I would suspect a motherboard fault and/or RAM - remove it, clean the contacts with a soft pencil eraser - down each contact, not across - degrease with alcohol or similar on a QTip and replace.
     
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    BillyWPB

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    That is everything I got from Sea Tools.

    The Windows disks got as far as announcing "Boot from CD ", then a blank black screen. Nothing. The Spotmau cd booted as it always did.
     
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  9. 2009/07/13
    PeteC

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    When you see 'Boot from CD' you generally need to press any key to proceed - have you tried this?
     
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  10. 2009/07/14
    BillyWPB

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    Success

    Finally got all the data off the 100 GB Maxtor. Took 3 tries for some reason. That drive will be getting the hammer.

    Seem that the problem with getting windows running was a bad SATA terminal on the MB. Did a full format on the 250GB drive and plugged it into the first SATA terminal, and nothing, black screen after "Run from CD ". Used new SATA cable and tried the second SATA terminal and the XP setup disk ran like a charm. Installed sp2 and sp3 from disks.

    Now if I could just get the **** thing to go on line I would be all set. But thats an other problem.

    Thank you for your help.
     
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  11. 2009/07/15
    PeteC

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    Great news - thanks for the update :)
     
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  12. 2009/07/15
    BillyWPB

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    And so it goes...

    Had another friend call yesterday with the exact same problem - Boot .... reboot....
    Learned my lesson. Used UBCD4Win boot cd, and Spotmau to defrag the disk, add a partition and back up the data files. Then did a clean install of XP. Works like a dream. The owner had a problem with "SEEKMO ". Not sure what it was exactly but it kept showing up, then bang it was dead. Is this a virus?

    Another problem - just asking, dont put too much effort into it - A Dell optiplex pentium 4, heard the fan before I opened the door. Fan was going at full speed,the power button was blinking orange, and it was beeping. Unplugged the peripherals, left the power on and opened it up. The cpu heatsink was HOT!!!! REALLY HOT! I replaced the P4, but it still blinks and beeps.

    Thoughts?? Motherboard? Toasted? The problem had been going on for several weeks, should have acted sooner. My fault.
     
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  13. 2009/07/16
    PeteC

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    Please start a new thread on each these problems - apart from the confusion that threads containing multiple problems cause this thread is marked as Resolved - no one is likely to look at it unless they have an interest in the solution.

    SEEKMO is a variant of Zango ....
     
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