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Wireless Networking with Asus Wi-Fi

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by PeteC, 2004/04/22.

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  1. 2004/04/22
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I am thinking of replacing my home network - PC/Laptop for file transfer only, no ICS - with a wireless network.

    Mobo is an Asus A7N8X-e Deluxe with Wi-Fi slot for the Asus WiFi-b module. Would use the Asus PCMCIA card in the laptop.

    Any experience out there with this kit - or would I be better off with PCI and PCMCIA from another source? Transfer speed/range is not a vital consideration.

    Each PC has independent (dial up) access to the Internet - ICS is not required, nor envisaged as a necessity in the future.

    Why ? To broaden my non-existent knowledge in this field :D
     
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  2. 2004/04/22
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    PeteC - my first suggestion would be that you do what I am in the middle of now; getting some basic info for myself.

    Deploying Secure 802.11 Wireless Networks with Microsoft Windows by Joseph Davies is where I started and so far I think it's gonna get me lots more up on this mess than I am now.

    The author is a tech writer for Microsoft and if you've ever seen a 'Cable Guy' piece, it was his.
     
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  4. 2004/04/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks Newt, but I hadn't envisaged going into it that deeply!
    OK for you networking folk, OTT for my needs, especially as I have no access to any other networks being retired :)
     
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    Are you saying you will be putting a wireless pci card in your desktop? And you don't want to get an access point or router? Then you will have to use AD Hoc and share the folders.

    Choices.

    1. An Ad-Hoc network, with no wireless router or access point.

    2. With a wireless access point connected, using a crossover cable, to
    a wired Ethernet port on the host computer.

    3. With a wireless router. Connect both computers to its LAN ports.
    Don't connect anything to its WAN (Internet) port. Disable the
    router's DHCP server so that it doesn't interfere with ICS.

    I use a router. Once in awhile my DSL goes down and I hook my laptop to dialup and my wireless lan still works. I don't use ICS so the desktop isn't on the internet but I can still access the shared folders.
     
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  6. 2004/04/23
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    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Maggie

    The main jist of my post was basically this .....

    My mobo has a dedicated WiFi slot and I was wondering if using this was a better option than a PCI card.

    An Ad-Hoc network - yes, no acess point, no router, just a simple wireless connection between the tower and laptop for file transfer only.

    I only have dial up and do not require ICS - the laptop uses the same dial up connection - independently, for use away from home.

    Currently using a Cat cable and some network problems.
     
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  7. 2004/04/23
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    The first thing I would do is enable the builtin one and see if it suits your needs. You will have to install Client for Microsoft Networks and make sure that printer and filesharing and client for microsoft is bound to TCP/IP. Also make sure the zero wireless configuration is on automatic and started in Services, folders shared. Also any browser services running. Then go into your wireless properties of the card in advanced and have ad hoc checked. link http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/bowman/02april08.asp
    Lots of links http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?st=b&na=88&View=en-us&qu=Ad+Hoc+Wireless+network
    Most of the stuff I have looked at requires ICS but most people want to share the internet connection also. Manually setting up the ad hoc would be the best because the network wizard will want to snag your internet and make a host,client setup.
    All my machines are XP Pro and I also use Remote Desktop to get into each one. But that is a different thing I don't think Ad Hoc would do it. It is just like being on the other computer.
     
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  8. 2004/04/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Maggie,

    Many thanks for the guidance on this - only the WiFi slot is built in - I need to get the Asus card to fit this. It has the advantage (?) of a plug in antenna which can be positioned in the open and not at the back of the PC as with most PCI cards.

    The Cat network runs OK, but with reservations like I don't see the other computer (maybe Classic view differs fron Luna) and have to trawl down through My Network Places to find the shared files and I have to shut down the laptop firewall to be able to transfer files - it's supposed to be self configuring (both are Kerio) and has all the necessary permissions, but still blocks. Used to see the shared files on each PC directly under My Network Places, but no longer and have got tired of deleting the network and running the Wizard over and over again.

    I've never really understood ICS on a laptop which clearly needs an independent dial up connection for use away from base. That aspect is fine on my setup.

    Useful links - thanks for those.
     
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  9. 2004/04/23
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    I don't use Kerio but ZAPro I put the whole network as trusted. I use IP Range 192.168.1.1-192.168.107 that includes my router and all the network. My network starts with 192.168.1.100 so I add a few extra for good measure. Depends on the order I boot the computers the IP addy changes since I use DHCP.

    To get them to show back up in My Network Places I "add a new network place" and go through all the steps, not just typing the link. Browse> Entire Network>Microsoft Windows Network Client >Mshome> shared folder. But usually the dropdown at the beginning of "add a network place" has the link listed already.

    I tend to loose my website and my external drive more than anything else.

    Since I use wireless on the laptop I use 128 bit WEP and Mac filtering since I'm broadcasting . My router and firewall help. Plus I live in the boonies and nobody else has wireless around here.
     
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