Resolved Windows7 Windows Defender.

A happy New Year to everyone.

Can anyone help please with my problem!

I have installed in my computer Microsoft Defender, however each time that I switch on, a caption that reads Defender is off, click for on (if icon Defender is not activated, then defender remains off).
Action center shows no way to activate Defender permanent on, though instructed to do so, and shows not available in this version of Windows7.
Another caption says that another program running is preventing Defender from opening at startup. I am unable to find this program, probably Microsoft own anti virus software installed. No other anti virus software is installed.
Your suggestions most appreciated.

 

My version of Defender encluded with my Windows7 update.
Which software interferes with Defender from opening at start other than manually using the Defender Icon and clicking.

 

Hi Bobby,

On the subject of Defender versus MSSE, you may be interested in my new post in General Security.

Roger

 

Do you have Microsoft Security Essentials installed? I ask because mines the same way. I looked in the event viewer and until I started it manually a couple days ago, it hadn't ran since Oct. 31. That would have been about the time I installed MSE though I can't say for sure. It is supposed to take care of viruses and spyware, at least that's my understanding. If I shut down the computer, it doesn't start when Windows starts. Have to start it manually again. Perhaps it disables Windows Defender?

I looked in my services and Windows Defender is set to automatic (delayed start) , whatever that is. Anyway, I'm not trying to hijack your thread here, just wondering if you have it installed. If so, it's something to look into.

 

Hello Zander,
Your entry, most welcomed.
Yes as you say, each time computer is switched on, requires defendender to be activated via the icon, though it is programmed to install at switch on.
I have also installed MS Security Essentials (though the icon had disaapeared from my Desktop).
MSE is ticked for Real Time Protection.
" Monitor file & program activity.
" Scan all all downloaded files & attachments.
" Default Action: Remove.
Remove.
Quarantine.
Quarantine.
ticked: Apply recommendation.

Save actions.

Perhaps, MSE is interfering with MS Defender. Requires to remember to activate Defender at each computer session.
It certainly would be interesting to hear anyone's views on this matter.

 

Well, I haven't really looked into this at all, rather, I'm just guessing at this point. When I open MSE, it says "Virus & Spyware definitions: Up to date. So, I'm just assuming that it probably turns off Defender. I'll see what I can find about it. If nothing else, I'll try uninstalling MSE and see if Defender runs then.

My guess is that if MSE is keeping it from running, it's not necessary to have both it and Defender running. Probably done by design. You wouldn't think they'd make an antivirus program that was incompatible with their spyware program. But, I guess dumber things have been done.

 

I found this.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...t/thread/5309cb8d-02e1-40e8-974f-0dcedb9ab9fd

 

Zander, in what I read in your last Posting, you could be correct that Defender is surplus and can be removed, after all hard drive space is at a premium.
Keeping an eye on Defender, checking, I find that Defender is after sometime on the computer session, that again Defender is closed down, by what could be MSE programmed todo.
I agree that MS should advise people that it is not required to use both
Defender and MSE. Defender does however, ask that you join MS Spynet (advanced membership) to gather very cheaply information that is of use to them.
Thought, perhaps in running both MSE and Defender is causing trouble in that each checks and rectifies the same steps and become confused.

 

PeteC, interesting in what you say. Can you tell me how to disable Defender?
Certainly at the present, each time that I Boot-up computer and clicking on the Defender Icon, a caption shows that Defender is "Turned Off" and to click symbol to "Turn On ".
You say that I am not "Charitable" towards towards Microsoft, same can be said about Microsoft as they seldom answer question on software faults, rather requests for payment - thank goodness for Forums like this one.

 

Well, it seems to me that if you have to start it manually all the time in order to use it, it's already disabled by MSE and there's no need for you to do anything in that regard.

 

Yes the only answer is to manually install Defender at each session or just ignore.
MS must have a reason for this, pity they will not say as to why!!
I checked file that shows all programs installed in hard drive C, and defender is not shown, perhaps a hidden file.
My thanks to everyone who showed interest and their comments.

 

Well, actually, they do say why. It's in the quote I posted on the previous page.

 

Well it certainly appears to be the case. I checked my installed software programs installed on my hard drive, and unable to trace any reference to Defender, probably due to Defender being part of Windows 7, therefore only safe step can be to remove the Defender icon.
Checking the Directory is a different story, as several mentions are shown. To delete these entries of Defender could/would cause trouble in operating Windows 7. It is a long known fact that Microsoft does not recommend or suggest any other form of altering their software - beware is their final warning.

 

I checked programs installed in hard drive "C" using Control Panel. No reference is shown under Microsoft entries.