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Windows XP x64 edition

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    I am soon going to start buying the parts to build a new computer. I will be using an AMD 64 bit processor. Should i be getting the new x64 (64 bit) version of Windows XP? Is it compatible with all 32bit programmes, or is it only compatible with 64bit programmes?
     
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    nobbie_ferguson - Welcome to the Board :)

    Basic info on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition.

    It will run 32 bit programs and it is worth noting that there are virtually no 64 bit applications available. Your biggest problem will be in obtaining drivers, especially for existing components although some 64 bit drivers are available.

    At this point in time it offers no great improvement in performance over the 32 bit version, but there is the promise of more in the future.

    BTW - be sure to get a Socket 939 mobo - see this thread ....

    http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?t=43734&highlight=socket+939

    I went for the Asus A8v Deluxe with an AMD 64 3500+ processor.
     
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    Yea, well the thing is i dont really want to buy XP Home now, then find myself shelling out for the 64 bit version in a few years time. Windows is expensive enough as it is without having to buy it twice! The drivers are a problem, but i think i may just have to put up with it for the time being.
    BTW, dont worry, i am going for a socket 939!
     
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    Don't forget that the replacement for XP, codenamed Longhorn, is out the end of next year and will also be available in 64 bit - sometime :)
     
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    Now that is a very good point! So i'd be better off buying XP home, cos i'll be wanting to get longhorn. Thanks a lot mate, i would have made the wrong choice if it weren't for you! 32bit version it is then!
     
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    Why are you going to get XP Home ? Expecially when building a new PC.

    Why not XP Pro ? Which I believe is much more flexable, Powerfull and FAR MORE usefull than the Home Version. And I believe well worth it.

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    BillyBob,

    I am running 64-bit windowsXP Home and no problems with apps/drivers so far
    (cross everything and hope like hades). :)

    There are 2 registery's included with mine, regedit and regedt32, i'm assuming
    they will play off each other for 32 bit apps. Probably a "change-over" tactic
    until 64-bit apps prevail. I found out about the regedt32 somewhere but as
    far as my system goes, i dont see a mention of it at all.

    Luck,
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    OK. I did not know there was such a things.

    BB
     
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    BillyBob,

    What i dont know could fill a lot of bushel baskets..... :D
     
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    64bit XP Home? I didn't realise that existed! What kind of price is it in relation to the normal XP Home? I'll have to look into this one!
     
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    Are you sure - there's no reference I can find to that on MS?
     
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    Not sure at all PeteC. Just saw the msg from acronisTI about not being able
    to handle 64-bit addressing. Given this i'm assuming something with 64-bit is
    going on somewhere within the system..

    Maybe i speak fromignorance!!! Not the first time either.. :)

    savagcl
     
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    Right click My Computer > Properties - General - what does it say there under System? Microsoft Windows XP ...... ?

    I suspect that Acronis picked up that you have an AMD 64 CPU (I think?), obviously capable of handling 64 bit addressing.
     
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    PeteC,

    It says:

    Microsoft Windows XP
    Home Edition
    Version 2002
    Service Pack 2

    and under Intel(R) it says:
    Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
    3.00 GHz, 0.98 GB of RAM
    Physical Address Extension

    Physical Address Extension??????

    thanks Guy,
    savagcl
     
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    No such thing exist, only a Pro version.
     
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    Clif,
    a quote from General FAQs About 64-bit Windows :

    Could the "Physical Address Extension" be due to "Intel Pentium 4 with EM64T? Otherwise I don't understand where it comes from ...... :confused: ...... ?

    Christer
     
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    Christer,

    I think it applies to all 64 bit processors, despite what is said here - see my Properties sheet below ...

    BTW - I have AMD Cool 'n Quiet enabled which varies the processor speed according to demand.
     
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    Hi Pete!

    There is so much to learn about new technology. I have only built one system with an AMD Athlon64 and didn't notice the "Physical Address Extension" in properties. I'll have a look next time I visit my friend, the owner.

    Christer
     
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    OK, I found on the intel site that this processor (630) is 64-bit capable.
    Whatever "capable" means in this instance. I think it means that when 64 bit
    is available that they will run on this processor (of course, that means a lot of
    upgrading for drivers, etc will be needed also).

    the more you dig, the deeper you get,
    savagcl
     
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