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Windows 95 Shutdown Screen and how to get rid of it

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Seraphyn, 2005/02/09.

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    Seraphyn

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    I have Windows XP Pro for os but when the HD originally formatted it was on a windows 95 BIOS system. So even though I now have the HD in a better machine I still get that annoying " Its safe to turn Comp off screen"

    Can anyone tell me how to get rid of it.

    Thanks in advance
     
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    That is not just a 95 message. It is in 98 also.

    And if I remember correctly I saw it on this XP Pro machine until I set the machine to turn off when I shut windows down.

    BTW. What is so annoying about it ?

    I believe it is just informing us that Windows has shut down properly and it is safe to turn the power off. And if that is the case it is A GOOD thing.

    OOPS !!. I see that you do have XP Pro. So it is there. It has nothing to do with the BIOS or the HD.

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    Seraphyn

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    I have two computers. One alot newer and also running XP Pro and that machine does not have that shut down screen.

    Why its so annoying is that I usually shut my comps down late and don't want to wait around until that screen pops up to be able to turn off the power.

    If there is a way to get rid of it. I would be grateful

    Thank you
     
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    Ok a BIG Question here

    Why in heavesn name do they refer to that as an error ?

    I see no way in **ll that it is an error?

    When all it is saying is Windows has shut down properly and completely and it is now safe to turn the power off.

    Seraphyn

    I have found it NOT TO BE a good idea to just tell Windows to shut down and walk away. Regardless of whether you have or do not have the message.

    If you have things set to shut the PS down WAIT to make sure it does so.

    No message. No shutdown of PS = Problems somewhere.

    Just like automobiles on the Highway. Getting in a hurry can KILL Windows.

    How do I know you ask ?? I have been hurt by BOTH.

    BillyBob
     
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    It is an 'error' in that is not the way it's supposed to be with an ATX board, an ATX PSU and Win XP (and 98 on an ATX board). Such computers are ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) compliant and as such shut down 'automatically' when the power button is pressed or the PC shut down via the usual route. In both cases Windows is closed conventionally and the power to the board goes to standby - often indicated by a green LED on the board. Switching off at the mains shuts down the power supply completely.

    See the entry in Device Manager below for an ACPI computer....
     
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    OK I see a difference of opinion ( likes/dislikes ) here.

    To Seraphyn it is a nusiance.

    To BillyBob it is not. Cause ( again ) to me it is just saying " Windows has shut down properly. it now OK to go to the next step. "

    I do agree that on the proper system it is a case of USER settings.
    To me it is a MESSAGE that if it DOES NOT come up may indicate problems. ( Windows has not shut down properly ) That is why I do not walk away until I see the message or see the green light on the case go out. I have no problem waiting 15 seconds for a machine to shut down. ( checked that on this XP Pro machine last night ) Of course when you are waiting the 15 seems like 60.

    But at the same time it is an error that if I do not wait for it and turn the power off it CAN BE and WAS trouble.

    I have one 98SE machine that it does come up on. ( older board )

    I have another 98SE machine that I see it flash by just before it shuts down the PS and I see the green power light go out on the case.

    On this XP Pro machine I do not see it at all cause IF WINDOWS shuts down properly it just kills the PS. . Just the power light goes out. But then I do get a message about the Monitor. ( user settings again I guess )

    The one time on this machine that the PS did not get shut down SCARED the living heck out of me. Luckly the RESET button let XP restart and fix things up. ( took PATIENCE on my part ) I never did find out what really caused the problem but my suspicions were ( still are ) that some program that may have been running did not let Windows shutdown properly and get to the point where the message should come up.

    Again. I see the so called error message as a GOOD ONE.

    BillyBob
     
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    Question for PeteC

    Where does the shut down automaticly part come in when the power button it pressed ?

    What is new that I am not aware of ? Is there a setting there that I am not aware of ? Newer MB maybe ?

    I made a mistake once ( used the power button ) and the whole house power went out once. Both times when I restarted I got a 100% correct ERROR message saying Windows was not shut down properly.

    Now there is an undesirable and unwanted error message.

    BillyBob
     
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    A function of some (all) relatively new boards combined with an equally up to date case. Mine is an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe purchased a year ago and installed in an Antec Sonata case.

    From the motherboard manual .....

    I have the BIOS set to soft-off.
     
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    Well, well. Another day has started out quite well. For two reasons.

    #1 I got some good answers.

    #2 I learned something new that can be put to very good use if and when I build a new system.

    Thank you for confirming my thoughts.

    This is the kind of stuff that I think is real important in discussions like this one. Such as. Are we dealing with an older or newer MB/case ?

    Thanks again.
    Have a great day.
    BillyBob
     
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    Seraphyn

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    Thanks for the reply Pete C and I now have been able to take the screen off.

    BillyBob, sorry if you think that I am being irresponsible with my machines but just to let you know that I just ripped out the HDD from a very old AMD K6 machine reformatted it and put it in a newer computer. Then transfered the whole set up to a new case. I do know my way around computers, and I knew this screen coming up was incorrect for the newer case and MB. But I did not know how to switch it off.

    Thanks to Pete I now learnt something new. :)

    Quote from billy "the green light on the case go out "
    This is what I check for before leaving the computers for the night.

    I did not mean to start a whole debate about this.


    Thanks anyway guys and the comp now shuts down properly.
     
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    You're welcome - now you can quit worrying :D
     
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    Good to read that you do check. That does show responsibility. I have Friends and Family that say it is not neccessary.

    LOL It happens anyway.

    But that is a good thing ( the debate part ) in a way. It does sometimes bring out things that we do not even think of.

    BillyBob
     
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