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Resolved Windows 7 + virtual xp

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by mlhenri, 2009/11/04.

  1. 2009/11/04
    mlhenri

    mlhenri Inactive Thread Starter

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    There are some programs at work that are older and are still needed. I am going to purchase 2 new laptops and am wondering about this xp compatibility feature windows 7 mentions. Has anyone tried this yet and does it work and still function within windows 7?

    Any thoughts are welcome
    Thanks
    mh
     
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  2. 2009/11/05
    PeteC

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    XP Mode is available in Windows 7 Pro and above.

    I am running Windows 7 Pro x64 with XP Mode installed (it is a separate download and includes a copy of XP Pro) to run a couple of programs which will not install in 7 - Quicken 2000 and a CD label printing program. Both run without issue in the virtual machine.

    There is a chance that your older programs will run in 7 - I have 15 year old + software installed in 7 and they run fine.

    If you have not done so run Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor on a computer with your older programs loaded and see what it throws up.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Arie

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    Also note that if your system isn't capable of running XP mode (or you don't have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate), you can still run Windows XP in a virtual machine.

    You'll need to download & install Virtual PC 2007 and you will need a licensed copy of Windows XP to install on VPC.
     
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  6. 2009/11/12
    mlhenri

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    This sheds light on my question. Thanks for the info
     
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  7. 2009/11/12
    PeteC

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    You're Welcome :)

    I've marked this thread as 'Resolved', please see .....
     
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  8. 2009/12/02
    denstoe

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    Virtual PC 2007

    Arie,

    I was not pleased to find out that my new Win 7 laptop does not have a VT processor. Xp mode was on my agenda before I found out. If I download Virtual PC 2007 will my legal copy of XP PRO upgrade version work or must it be the full version? It also appears that you must have Win 7 Pro or higher to run.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Technically - you aren't upgrading anything and wouldn't be eligible to use the discounted upgrade cd of XP...
     
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  10. 2009/12/02
    denstoe

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    Arie's post leads me to believe that win 7 does not have to be pro or better to use this. MS says pro or better. Can you clarify? In my opinion MS has dropped the ball on XP mode.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    There are two ways to kill this bird:

    1) Have a VM processor machine - get the virtualpc and free XP image

    2) Any pc get the older virtualpc2007 and use your paid for copy of XP
     
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  12. 2009/12/02
    denstoe

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    The question was!!!!! Do I need Win 7 Pro or better to use Virtual PC 2007 with my disc? Arie leads me to believe I don't. Thanks.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    YES and NO.

    See my last post. There are TWO Versions of VirtualPC.....
     
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  14. 2009/12/02
    MinnesotaMike

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    Steve,

    Sorry to jump in here. Do you have links for the older version of Virtualpc? I couldn't find one. I have some software that I would like to get to run on my new Windows 7 Home Premium system. I went to your "Step #2" instructions and it states that I am not eligible. If I use the Microsoft® Hardware-Assisted Virtualization Detection Tool, it states that mine needs to be enabled. Also, can I use the OEM XP Home disk that came with my other system to do this? Thanks.

    Mike
     
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  15. 2009/12/03
    Arie

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    Seems some confusion...

    You do not need an specific version of Windows 7 to run Microsoft Virtual PC 2007. Microsoft doesn't list Windows 7 as a supported OS for VPC 2007, but I have successfully installed it on both Home Premium & Ultimate. I got a pop up that I wasn't running a supported OS, but could continue with the installation anyway. As you'll see in the warning, you can run on an unsupported OS, it will just mean you can't ask Microsoft for support.


    If you want to run Windows Virtual PC (which is only available for Windows 7), then yes, Microsoft specifies that you need Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate.

    Now, funny thing is that if you "specify" that you have one of these, the Windows Virtual PC EULA (you'll see when running the Windows6.1-KB958559-xxx.msu file) says:
    Windows XP Mode will not run, but you can still run Windows Virtual PC.

    I tried, and it installed fine on my Windows 7 Home Premium machine

    Now, VPC 2007 can be used to install a licensed version of Windows XP. You'll need a full version license for Windows XP to be 'legal'.

    Hope that answerers your questions.
     
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    MinnesotaMike

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    Thanks Arie, that helps.
     
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  17. 2009/12/03
    denstoe

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    Thank you Arie. That is what I was asking. One last question. Using Windows 7 Home Premium and VPC 2007 must I use XP Home or can I use XP Pro? Thanks.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    You can use "almost" any operating system...Even non Windows OS's.
     
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    denstoe

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    Thank you Steve.
     
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  20. 2009/12/28
    Mysen

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    Hi Arie, Very informative and thanks.

    I have a new HP laptop too and does not have the VT processor, I will use Virtual PC 2007 and load a legal XP Pro copy.

    My question is can I still load Windows Virtual PC like you said previously for a different O.S.?

    and if so will it conflict with Virtual PC 2007?

    Thanks,
    Mysen
     
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  21. 2009/12/31
    Zander

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    As Steve said, you can use it to run almost any OS. DOS, Linux, Win98, Win95, whatever. If you have a Linux live CD such as Knoppix, you can mount that image in it and run it in the virtual pc. As far as I know, you can have pretty much as many virtual machines as you want or that your hard drive will hold. You have to go through the install routine for each of them just as you would with a real computer.

    Once you have one up and running, it is just like having another computer. Unless you network it to the host OS (in this case your Windows 7), it doesn't even know the host exists.
     
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