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Why is IE 8 Tracking Firefox

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by cadittle, 2009/08/28.

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    cadittle

    cadittle Inactive Thread Starter

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    Have never used IE 7 or 8.
    Short of removing IE, is there anything that can be done to stop IE of this activity.
    I clear cookies, history, etc., when I close FF.

    Thanks for your time.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Please explain what you mean by IE "tracking" Firefox. Why do you think IE is doing this?
     

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    cadittle

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    IE 8 Tracking FF

    Microsoft phoning home, I guess? Anyway, I clean up cookies, etc., when I close FF. Back on my desktop, I run cc cleaner and I noticed there was nothing there to clean up in FF, but it had a long Chinese laundry list of Temp, Internet Files (cookies in IE) to delete.
    Recently before I ran cc cleaner, I right clicked the IE icon and into properties
    I clicked view files and it showed approx. 50 to 60 cookies which kinda matches my web activities within FF.
     
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    TonyT

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    IE8 doesn't "phone home ".
    If never use IE8 then the IE temp folders will be empty.
    If these dirs get filled with Firefox cookies, history and cache pages then either someone else is using IE on your computer or there is a Firefox Add-On that put the files in the IE temp dirs.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Win XP for example:
    C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Cookies

    Is the folder where cookies get stored. I don't use FF but I'd imagine it stores cookies just like IE does and to the same location. And it just so happens that Windows copies these cookies to the Internet Temp Files folders too.

    So it's NOT IE that's doing this - its Windows.
     
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    Westside

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    I agree that it is Windows, and not IE. Why, I don't know. Presumably to help the user.
    I don't look at the cookies, for storage, as I have set up Firefox to delete cookies on Exit. There is a similar settings in IE8, and at any given time, I see nothing or only the cookies used by Firefox, if open, at this path: C:\Documents and Settings\Fulvio Perini\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files. My FF is open, and I have used two cookies, and so there are two cookies at the above path.
     
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    TonyT

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    AFAIK FF does not use the Windows default tmp dirs. FF stores cookies, browsing history, forms history in sqlite database files. Web files are stored in the Profile Cache dir.
     
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    What do you mean,is IE8 tracking Firefox? I've been using Firefox since the 3.5RC came out(approx.June 2009). What would even be the purpose of it? I've had no problems like this. Have you ran a spyware or malware scan lately? This is like saying Microsoft is tracking Mozilla. There are several good free spyware detectors on the market. Since the forum prevents advertising, I won't break the rules. Just Bing or Google "free spyware detectors ". This may put you in the right direction. Good Luck!
     
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    Westside

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    He interpreted that because he sees the cookies in a location other than a Firefox file.
    It would help if a path be given. It is an unfounded assumption to say that IE8 tracks FF.
    Could it possibly be a case of convenience for users of IE?
     
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    TonyT

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    More than likely when FF was installed the user chose to import all IE stuff, thus the apparancy that IE duplicates FF files.
     
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    Westside

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    That would make sense. However, I never imported IE stuff, and FF cookies showed up in the above mentioned folder. I don't have IE Favorites in my Firefox Bookmarks, as one would expect if the IE Stuff had been imported.
     
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    TonyT

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    Delete the cookies in the Windows %UserProfile% Cookie folder. Then go to FF > Tools > Options > Privacy Tab > Show Cookies button and see if any cookies are there. It likely they will be there as they are stored in a sqllite database.

    Also, a Web site could include javascript or other scripting that may be able to put cookies into the Windows Cookies dir. And some software can set cookies too. For example, most antivirus software invoke a hidden instance of IE when updating or use a ftp script. The code could set a cookie that stores certain variables such as date, is-registered?, version, etc.

    I use IE and FF and Chrome on my Windows desktop and cookies never get duplicated, they are all separately stored.
     
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    Allen H

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    cadittle, I am glad the you asked this question because I have often wondered, why, when I only use FF that the IE files show up in C Cleaner ( none the wiser now though ) :):)
     
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    catilley1092

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    One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post. On some sites (such as Microsoft), you must use IE. There is and I do have an IE tab on my Firefox browser. It is a manual plug in. On your screen in the lower right hand corner, you will see a Firefox symbol. If you click onto it, it will change to the IE symbol. It is a possibility that this may be your problem. When I download or check for updates at the Microsoft site, then run the analyzer on CCleaner to clean, there will show IE files to be cleaned. This is the only things that shows to be deleted except index dat files. They always show.
     
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    Westside

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    I have not used IE8 in several days, nor IE Tab, but the Temp Internet Files have almost 100 items. My three Firefoxes and two Seamonkeys cookie folders are empty when the programs are closed.
    The vast majority of the cookies come from the independent psi.exe, or Secunia, and Super Antispyware.
     
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    catilley1092

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    I'm confused on this one. I don't understand why you keep getting these files. The only other possibility(s) I can think of, are you letting someone else use your PC? The other remote possibility would be, could someone be "piggybacking" off your internet connection. I just don't know what else to suggest.
     
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    Westside

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    Referring to whom? If it was my previous post, I said that the IE cookies were produced mostly from the Secunia Site Advisor (98 cookies) and Super Antispyware(6 cookies) programs. All but one cookie are removed when I delete the Temp.Internet Files. I, periodically, do Security and AntiSpyware scans.
     

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