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Resolved Why are there so many software issues w/ Win 7 64?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by chas berlin, 2010/09/29.

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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    I'm having nothing but trouble running software that says it's for Win 7 64.
    Flac and Audacity are just two that won't work properly.
    Is there something w/ Win 7 64 that's problematic? I continually read online of people having the same problems I'm having w/ this OS.
    I'm really starting to consider going back to XP. It was basically problem free.
     
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    braindead

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    did you try playing with compatibility mode?

    right click / properties / compatibility
    then select run this program in compatibility mode "win xp SP2 "
     

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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    2 software packages does not equal "so many ". First of all, flac and audacity were initially developed for Linux and later ported to Windows. Development of these packages for Windows takes less of a priority for the software authors.

    I have no issues at all with audacity and I don't use flac on Windows. If I want to use highest quality audio I use wav. And I prefer shorten over flac.
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Tony,
    There are more, but I don't remember them all right now.
    I used both Audacity and Flac in XP w/ no problems at all.
    I've been reading about issues w/ Vuze running on Win 7, and the many fixes.
    I'm not a tech and don't have time to mess w/ my computer every time I want to run software. I just want to be able to run the software, which is why I'm considering returning to XP. It is a great, stable OS. I continue to read more and more issues w/ Win 7, some of which are about software I typically use, but haven't got to yet in Win 7.
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    This is a whole other issue. I don't know how to run compatibility mode. I have an icon on my desktop for Virtual PC (I think this is compatibility mode?), and when I tried it the error message said, "XP Mode could not be restored - hardware assisted virtualisation is disabled. A friend set up the Bios for me and this was supposedly taken care of. I don't have a clue what to do. Hence the problem w/ Win 7. I had no idea you had to be a tech to run software on it. I've got too many other things to do than ***** w/ my computer everyday because Win 7 needs me to hold it's hand. I'm not even sure how to get to the Bios to make modes.
    Yes, I'm frustrated.
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Braindead gave you the instructions;)

    You right click on the icon for Audacity-> properties / compatibility
    then select run this program in compatibility mode "win xp SP2 "
     
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    braindead

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    XP Mode

    should do the job also, but i have yet to tackle that beast. i have gotten great results with compatibility mode under vista and im running a mid to end 90s game on win 7 right now with the help of comp. mode as well.

    good luck
    Brain
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Steve, Thx for spelling it out for me.
    Just tried it and got the same error message, "Error while opening sound device. Pls ck the input devise settings and project sample bit rate ".
    I still think it has something to do w/ there not being a recording devise listed.
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    What is the Win Virtual PC that I can't run?
    This is different than XP Mode?
    It's not like I'm totally confused, I'm just totally confused. :confused:
     
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    braindead

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    unfortunately all i know about xp mode is on here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

    looks like you have hardware issues, did you properly install all your hardware with proper win 7 drivers?

    with that said, ill pull out of this thread and leave it to the more experienced users.

    and yeah i do agree there a could of confusion roaming around win 7.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Win Virtual PC allows you to install additional operating systems that run inside/on top of your current Windows seven.

    The attached screen shot shows show my Win XP start button inside a window...and you can also see my Windows Vista start button.
     

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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Steve, what is the difference between Virtual XP mode and XP mode?
    I went into the Bios and enabled virtual PC mode, and when I hit the icon on my desktop I got a screen called Win XP Mode - Win Virtual PC. Couldn't see how to do anything w/ it though. Can you explain. I assume you run the older programs there, but how do you load/access them?
    Thx
     
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    TonyT

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    More than likely your soundcard drivers are not properly installed or your settings for recording source are not correct in audacity. What sound card/chipset?
     
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    chas berlin

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    From my system profile: Integrated Realtec ALC888S

    If the sound card drivers were wrong then I wouldn't be listening to music (through iTunes on my computer) right now. They also work for Netflix and videos I play, i.e. YouTube.
    Now the issue of setting in Audacity is what I'm asking about. What question are you asking me? As I said there is no recording device specified in Audacity (see specifics above, in the response you quoted), but can't find a way to enter a device into that window.
    Maybe I'm wrong (pls tell me if I am), it appears you are defending Win 7 by telling me how the software works fine on your machine. Is this helping me to solve the problem? As I said, "I'm not a tech ". The same software worked great on XP, so I don't understand how your statement helps. I'm frustrated and you seem to want to throw more fuel onto the fire. I came to this forum for help, not to hear about how little I know about my computer. If I knew everything about my computer why would I come here?
     
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    Hello Chas,

    Go to the Audacity site: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

    In the yellow background box - follow the "Read about provisional support for Windows 7" link. See if you meet all conditions for using Audacity. There is a contact for help link at the site as well.

    It could be that the issue is Seven itself or 64 bit vs 32 bit.



    Edit: just noticed your thread on Audacity in the Other Software section and Arie's suggestion to look at the Win7 Provisional Support page.

    You should contact Audacitiy's support - developers appriciate feedback on problems with their product, especially with potential 64 bit issues.
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Charles, I will follow the link you provided.
    I read Arie's comment, but hadn't a clue where to look. He seems to look down on folks like me who are not techies, or good at intuitively searching the net. There was no reference to the Audacity site, so where was I to look?
    I really appreciate you going the extra mile to spell it out for me. As you've probably read in other threads, I expect software to work, not to waste hrs trying to figure out how to get them to work. So far I hate Win 7 64. If I knew it would be like this I'd have either not gotten it, or stayed w/ 32 bit. I still have software that I haven't even tried because of all the issues. I've never encountered this type of thing in my life. XP was far superior IMO.
    Thx
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Charles,
    This is just the weirdest!
    The link you posted said to 1st try updating the drivers, so in control panel I look to see what's there. I punch up the sound tab and now the recording tab is showing...
    Stereo Mix
    Realtek High Def Audio.

    Charles, this was not there two days ago when I last looked (trying to get Audigy to work). This is insane. Again, I've never seen anything like this. I haven't added anything, nor have I enabled anything. Not until I saw this listed in the tab, so naturally I enabled it. But where did it come from????

    Again, I appreciate you doing what others would not. Maybe I'm not as smart as some of the guys here, who have always been incredibly helpful in the past, and yet this time it was like I was up against attitudes. I don't get it.
    Thx a TON! :):):)
     
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    TonyT

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    This is something we have all experienced: During moments of being frustrated we tend to overlook the obvious or we just simply fail to perceive what's there. And on the mystical side of it, sometimes weird stuff happens and when we bear down and look again at the problem with a clearer mind, suddenly there's something we notice that we hadn't noticed before. No foul in that.
     
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    Arie

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    Ah... story of my life :)

    Let me explain myself. Audacity is not software that (usually) ships with your PC. It is Open Source software that has to be downloaded.

    If you have trouble with any software, first thing you'd do is to 'plug' its name in Google right?

    Even if you don't know how to search on Audacity Windows 7 compatibility, just searching on Audacity gets you (on the 1st result) the link to http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

    I don't know, but things can't get more simple than that?

    It's not that you're not aware of these things, we regularly give this type of information. You've been a member since June '08.
     
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    chas berlin

    chas berlin Inactive Thread Starter

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    Arie, Maybe it's not personal. It appeared to be.
    Actually I'll send a PM, that's more appropriate.
     

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