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Resolved What's in it for spammers?

Discussion in 'Security and Privacy' started by kosketus, 2011/12/18.

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    kosketus

    kosketus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hi,

    The E-mail program I use is Outlook Express, and I've no wish to change.

    For the past couple of months I've been getting a daily batch of spam E-mails, despite paying my service-provider for a spam-filter. I imagine these messages must be being generated by a robot, programmed in such a way as to evade normal spam-filtering by avoiding the use of key words and combinations of words which such filters rely upon to work.

    These are just harmlessly obscene and appear to serve no practical purpose whatsoever. They're little more than a minor irritation, frankly:- I just routinely delete them each time I open OE. Still, I'd rather not be getting them. I've read that even if I change my address it's possible for the spammers to follow me - and anyway the inconvenience attendant upon changing it seems out of proportion to the nuisance actually being caused.

    Surely it must cost somebody something to devise, set-up and use the necessary software to generate these messages? What I would dearly like to know is:- why do they (the spammers) bother - what do they get out of it? It's not as if they were even trying to sell me anything (and I'm not talking about begging-letters or ones that tell me I've just won a million euros in a lottery I never entered-for, and will I kindly just forward my bank's details...).

    I simply don't understand the mentality behind this. Can anyone explain?
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Many times the spam is sent from an unsupecting pc that was hacked...so it costs the spammers very little...

    If they can get 6 out of one million people to fall victim to thier scam then the payoff can be big bucks....
     

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    SpywareDr

    SpywareDr SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Some contain links that if clicked, will turn your computer into yet another spamming 'bot, or infect it and then demand money to remove the infection, or use it to store illegal files, etc., etc., etc.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Sometimes, one will receive spam which looks like gibberish, or contains words related to some subject, usually meds or pron, but entirely out of context. One cannot make sense of the message.

    This type of spam can be:

    1. spammer's mail bot is generating the messages incorrectly.

    2. a spam filter of some ISP en route has removed the major content from the message.

    3. spammer is phishing for valid addresses, if you respond, he/she knows it's a valid address, after which your address gets added to the "good" list.

    What's in it for the spammer? $$$$$ It takes a few hours at best for a spammer to setup a bot-net that replicates and perpetuates itself. If .005% of the millions of recipients are ignorant enough to purchase something...
     
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    wildfire

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    It should be pointed out that simply opening (or even previewing) the spam can be enough to validate the address (images Tony), though thankfully todays email clients offer features to prevent this.
     
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    kosketus

    kosketus Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks for the helpful replies.

    I guess that what they boil down to is that my best course is to carry on doing what I'm doing already - ie mechanically deleting them.

    What are the chances that they'll eventually stop of their own accord? Or is the process so automated that once started it's effectively not under human control from then on?
     
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    wildfire

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    Extremely small, occasionally spam bots get closed down but within hours another rears it's ugly head. Either way once on 1 spam list you'll likely be on several within minutes.

    Best bet is to try and avoid it in the first place, I have several addresses, one of which is a honey trap. Whenever I subscribe to a mailing list or website/forum etc I use the honeytrap. If after a few weeks there is no increase in spam I'll change the address to one of the more secure ones.

    If the honeytrap becomes overloaded with spam it's easy enough to abandon it and create another.
     
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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Best thing to do if you know it is spam, is to NOT open it and just delete it.
     
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    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi kosketus. One time a received a swarm of Spam messages on my main e-mail address account that I use. This went on for a few days but I just ended up deleting them each time without opening them. Sooner or later if the spammer doesn't get an acknowledgement that you opened or replied to their Spam messages then they will move on to the next victim and stop sending you e-mails.

    As Bill said above just delete the messages without opening them and hopefully you won't get any more from that same respondent but with how e-mail is there is no guarantee that the Spam will stop.
     
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    SpywareDr

    SpywareDr SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    TonyT

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    Totally automated, no human intervention until credit cards get used, if it's a scam.

    I was referring to the stripped down gibberish spam that contain no visible images or transparent images. And most of these gibberish messages are plain text, which cannot contain images.
     

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