Weird IDE problem

I originally posted this to alt.games.quake3, but someone there told me to post here as you people are more knowledgable, so here goes:

I am putting together a new computer, and am having
a very strange problem. I have my CD-Burner set as master on the secondary IDE bus, my hard drive is master on the primary IDE bus. When I attach my DVD-ROM (set as slave) to the primary bus, my BIOS fails to find the hard drive. When I attach it to the secondary bus, everything works fine until I try to load my CD-Burning software (Nero Burning Rom) it crashes my system. This crash has been either the screen totally stops (including the mouse), or a blue screen (which I was unaware they had in windows XP until now), but what happens most often is that my computer simply resets. I have only had the bluescreen twice, so I haven't been able to write down the error. This is the second DVD drive I have tried, so I don't think that is the problem. My system is as follows:

Asus A7N266-C (1001.E bios, the latest)
AMD Athlon 2000+
2 x 256 megs 266mhz DDR Ram
Geforce 2 GTS 32 meg (GF4 ti4400 is in the mail)
Netgear FA311 NIC
LG brand DVD-ROM Drive
LiteOn 32x CDR
Seagate 40gig 5400rpm HDD (ST340810A)
Aopen case (300W ps)
WinXP Home Edition (all updates downloaded)

Also, when I detach my DVD rom from the secondary bus, I can load my burning
software just fine. Does anyone have any ideas what this problem could be
or what I should try? Thanks in advance.

 

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I'm hoping you have an ATA/100 ide cable attached to IDE 1? If so set BOTH devices to cable select & set the ide detection in bios to "AUTO ". save/exit reboot.

 

I've always had beter luck setting DVD as master and CDRW as slave on the same IDE header and you can do as Rancher suggests and set them both as Cable Select but make sure the DVD is at the end of an 80 wire cable so its detected as master. You'll get some nonsense during Nero setup that you shouldn't have your CDRW on the same IDE as another CDROM device - consider it as applicable to underpowered machines only and disregard it. Also, if you put your HDD and a DVD or CDRW on the same cable, you have just taken a nice HDD and slowed it to a crawl because it will run at the speed of the slowest device on the cable - ATA or PIO.

If the cabling and CS or Master/Slave settings we have suggested don't give you any relief - leave them as we suggested and try DVD and CDRW both with and without DMA enabled. If still no go, check the 6 little pins (3 rows of 2) to the left of your audio out and digital audio out connectors on the CDRW. You may need to call your drive mfg tech support to get the correct jumper setting to enable PIO mode only - and that assumes you have spare jumpers around.

Post back and let us know what works.

 

bluescreen

I did get to see the bluescreen recently, here is the error message:

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

Technical information:
*** STOP: 0x00000050 (0xF509B12, 0xF5095012, 0x00000000)

I thought this sounded like a memory thing, so I tried using each of my two sticks seperately, and the same problem still occured. At this point the only pieces I haven't tested are the processor, motherboard, hard drive, and cd-R. Does anyone have any ideas where to go from here?

 

copied over from MS

Stop 0x00000050 or PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Stop 0x00000050 or PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. This Stop message, also
known as Stop 0x50, occurs when requested data is not found in memory. ...
www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/ reskit/en/prork/prhd_exe_duol.htm - 8k

Have you switch the device possitions as suggested?

 

problem solved

After switching everything I could think of, I simply swapped out the CDR
with another one, and it worked perfectly. Sometimes the simpleist
solutions are the best, I guess. Thanks for all your help.

 

I always use Lite-Ons (CD, CD-RW, DVD) and have no troubles. I also slave my burner to my DVD-Rom drive without trouble.

 

"Also, if you put your HDD and a DVD or CDRW on the same cable, you have just taken a nice HDD and slowed it to a crawl because it will run at the speed of the slowest device on the cable - ATA or PIO. "

No longer true. Modern machines have independent IDE timing.

 

That's exactly what I've heard, Paul but it seems that the legend of ATAPI devices slowing down hard drives is one that will never die!

 

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Lets all repeat that everyday for the yr, then maybe, just maybe we can put the ol' tale to rest. I get the "Oh yeh prove it" thing all the time