WEb server on Windows98se with Frontpage

I am trying to set up a personal web server to check a small web created with frontpage2000.
I have two boxes with Wind98SE on both, linked just with an internet cable (no hub); One computer communicates with internet (DSL) the other just on LAN.
I have loaded Frontpage on both computer and the PWS (from CD Wind98SE disk) on the client (before Frontpage).
The Frontpage extensions has been loaded.
On the client the webserver appeared once and no more. Since then, Frontpage says the it is impossible to find a server on port 80.
I believe that the server was not set correctly. I did not find any instruction on the various support links how to set it. I am also ignorant on the "port items" either.
Can anyone help me to find instructions?
Thanks a lot

 

The only way to link two computers by a single 'wire', is to use a crossover cable. You cannot use a standard cat5 internet cable.

A standard cat5 cable is normally called a patch cable. You use this from your workstation NIC ----> to a hub, switch or router/fw.

Unless the pc with dsl access has two NIC's, this is physically impossible. You can't have both computers connected to each other and have one of them connected to the internet.

Before you get to the FP issue, let's address your LAN. The best wasy to get two PC's talking AND have access to to the internet, is to use a multi-port fw/router.

1. This device will sense a request to connect to the internet and dial your dsl ISP.

2. From a LAN perspective, this device will have multiple ports, like a hub/switch. Not only can you create a workable LAN, but now you can share the same dsl provider account.

An inexpensive router will cost about $ 60.

Once you get the LAN working, for two pc's use static IP's. When you want to connect to the webserver from the client PC, open up IE and type http://192.168.1.101:80

This assuming that:
- your network address is 192.168.1.0
- webserver IP is 192.168.1.101
- client IP is 192.168.1.x where (x) is some other number

Now FP

You need to load PWS on the webserver.

Can you ping the webserver from the client pc. if you can't this may explain the problem. Port 80 is HTTP (web service)

 

Thank you 24Jedi.
Of course I have a crossover cable. One box is connected to internet with DSL The other is connected to the first. ICS handles the connection.
I have PC CIllin 9 on both with firewall. I use spybot and Ad-ware6. The two boxes navigate perfectly and I do not suffer any problem.
I have loaded first the PSW of Windows98se on the box connected to internet. However Msdtcw went into error. Since I have AMD on that computer and I noticed that the comment on the program propiety says Intel X86, I have changed the installation on the second box run by Pentium4 and everything went ok.
After that I loaded Frontpage2000 where the web server is supposed to be.
Now the two boxes communicate each other and both access internet.
The IP configuration of the box connected to internet varies according to the connection (i.e. now is 80.181.113.205 - subnet 255.0.0.0), while the IP of the second has not changed from the original 192.168.0.2 - subnet 255.255.255.0. The ping is not working on both. Different subnet?). However why I am unable to access the web server on the box where it is installed?
Perhaps it is not possible to have a web server on a computer not connect directly to internet?
Thanks everybody for help.

 

Does the box which connects to the internet have two network cards ?

How are you trying to access the computer with PWS ? Please be specific.

This may be disbaled in the firewall. PING is ICMP. Alot of software firewalls have this disabled by default. Basically when your ping a box, the box 'pinged' sends back a reply 'yes..i am here'. disabling this response gives the appearance to a hacker that there is no pc at that address.

If the second PC is using the ICS service on the first computer (which has the dsl account), I really don't think you need a firewall on the second box. It is somewhat redundant AND proably blocking incoming traffic from the first pc. Internet incoming traffic should never hit the second box because of the firewall on the first box. Try disabling the firewall on the second box as a test.

 

24Jedi - thank you again.
I have spent last days to reconfigure ICS, my lan and boxes. Reloading ICS caused some problems and the lan was not working anymore. Finally I have found the microsoft patch to reload it correctly, by extracting a series of files and editing the register. Now the two boxes are capable to talk eachother and to access internet.
For the ping you are right: disabling the firewall I can ping from the main box (connected to intyernet through a dsl modem) to the client on which the PSW is sitting and viceversa. Now I have reset the firewall on the main and left out on the client.

Now to the PWS question.
I have loaded the required software for a web server (from the Windows98se CD disk) on the client. I have then loaded Frontpage 2000 on the client and asked to create a new web. It did it and created a http://client_name/myweb.
The web server was http://client_name.
Then I tryed to publish on that web server a web created on the main box with Frontpage2000. It came out that there was no web server and was not possible to find the 80 port on Client_name.
Since then also on the client is not possible to create web anymore on http://client_name.
winipcfg is ok on both boxes with default IP address192.168.0.1 on the main and 192.168.0.2 on the client, and the same subnet 255.255.255.0.
Perhaps it is not a network item but a problem with the web server setup.
However I am not able to find any documentation to check.
Any help would be appreciated.
Warmest regards

 

Ok..bare with me here.

Client_Name
192.168.0.2
No Firewall
Win98se
FP2000
PWS - webserver

Main
192.168.0.1
Firewall + dsl
win98se
FP2000

I don't have the answer...but I have a theory.

PWS is a client version of the microsoft IIS server webserver. The sole purpose of PWS is to test a website locally before publishing to a real web server. FrontPage server extensions reside on the server to allow a client to negotiate a FP ftp connection for the local website to be uploaded.

What you appear to be trying to do, is publish a website from Main onto Client_Name. I don't think this will work because they are both client versions of a webserver. I don't think this will work. You need a server to publish to...short of simply copying the files over.

Now...

If you create a website on Client_Name, you should still be able to get to it from Main.

Try using http://192.168.0.2/myweb from Main pc

Also, if you edit the hosts file on Main to include an entry for Client_Name

# Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
#
# This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

127.0.0.1 localhost

add....
192.168.0.2 Client_Name

Now from Main you could get to Client_Name like this

http://Client_Name/myweb

Hope this helps

 

24jedi
success.
The last suggestion solved the problem.
I can access the web server through http://192.168.0.2
Not with Http://client_name. In this case I have the usual message of page unavailable. But at least I have a functioning way to investigate further.
Thanks again for your patient and valid support.
For those like me who are fighting to have PWS operational I have found this useful link
http://www.studiodeluxe.net/pws/index.htm
Warm regards

 

If you make the hosts file entry he suggested, you can also connect by name.