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Windows Vista Vista Installation Problems + Resolution

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by PeteC, 2006/11/18.

  1. 2006/11/18
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I am posting this for the benefit of others who may experience the same problem and also in the hope that an explanation of the cause may be forthcoming....

    I run Windows XP Pro SP2 and Vista as dual boot from different partitions on a SATA drive - mobo is Asus A8N-SLI Premium and on each occasion I install Vista (installled Ultimate RTM yesterday) I have problems with the installation looping as outlined below (until I remember the solution :)).....

    Revert back to the NT bootloader using Vista BootPro 3.1 and reformat the Vista partition.

    Boot from the Vista DVD and select the partition for installation. The installation goes well up to the point at which the computer reboots at 'Expanding Files 27%'. After the reboot the installation procedure starts over in an endless loop.

    The solution I found - and I find it strange that this is necessary - was to reset the boot order in BIOS to HD > Floppy > CD-ROM - the order after HD is not important and run the Vista setup from within Windows. The installation then proceeds normally.

    As I recall when installing previous OS's the reboots ignored the CD and rebooted to setup. This is common practice - but - on my computer there is no 'Press any key to boot from CD' when booting up with a bootable CD/DVD in the drive - it just boots from it.

    Question is - is this a bug in the Vista installation package or a fault/setting on my computer?
     
  2. 2006/11/18
    Steve R Jones

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    How did you manage to boot off the dvd to do the install if the hd is the first option?
     

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  4. 2006/11/18
    Bill Castner

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    Since my memory is fresh on this:

    If there is an IDE drive that is bootable, (say you had your XP installation there and were using a SATA partitiion for Vista) then the process would go as you expect. Setting the BIOS boot order would trigger a screen response to press any key to boot from CD or DVD, and this prompt would appear during the two times that Vista installation rebooted the machine.

    However, if the only Hard drives are SATA or RAID or anything requiring a driver to be recognized and made bootable, then what appears to the Vista installation is that the CD/DVD ATAPI drive appears at startup as the only bootable device on the system. This differs in BIOS cases where there is direct BIOS support for the SATA drives as bootable devices in non-PATA mode.

    Therefore it does not prompt. As far as it is concerned it already "owns" the only valid boot device on the computer.
     
  5. 2006/11/18
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Steve
    As I posted with HD as the first boot option I ran the Vista setup from within Windows XP.

    Bill

    Thanks for that - I think I follow :)

    The PC has 2 x SATA drives, not in RAID plus a PATA drive. Only the first SATA drive has Primary Partitions - the other SATA and PATA drives are all Logical Partitions.
     
  6. 2006/12/16
    risko325

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    ive got a problem throw the installation of wista...when i instal win from boot it just copy files and when the screen with that green bar where is only microsoft corporation typed appears it just moves that bar for several minutes..no response...i tried it also install throw windows xp but after reboot it was all the same:confused: ...can you help me ...ive got this conf :MoBo: MSI K9N Platinum (AM2) | CPU: Athlon 64 ® 3200 (AM2) | HDD: Seagate 250GB Serial ATA II 7200ot. 16MB | RAM: 2x DDRAM2 512 MB Kingmax 667 CL4.0 | VGA: MSI Geforce NX7600GT T2D256EZ 256 MB (PCle) HeatPipe | ps : ive got final rtm version of vista
     
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  7. 2006/12/16
    Steve R Jones

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    The bar graph can take well over twenty minutes to complete...
     
  8. 2006/12/16
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    risko325 - Welcome to the Board :)

    The key to installing any large program is to keep an eye on the hard drive light on the case/tower.

    If the progress bar appears to have stopped take a look at the hard drive light - if it is lit or flashing the process is still working. The install of Vista can take longer that Steve suggests - at least it seems like it :)
     
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    risko325

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    i w been waiting for it over 10 min...the bar isnt stopped but i didnt know what to do because the is nothin typed like to wait several minutes to completition...only the company name..so i thought that somethin isnt allright so i rebooted the pc and whent back to xp...do you thing that it takes that long time ? ...the hd light isn doing nothing...should i wait 20 min ?
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    You don't have anything to lose except time by letting it run...
     
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    i let it run over 20 min...nothing happend..only the moving green bar....all the time...i had the same problem with rc2 but i thought it was only because it isnt the final release...what can be wrong ?
     
  12. 2006/12/16
    PeteC

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    If the green bar continues to move just have patience - I seem to recal that Vista Ultimate Gold took well over an hour to install.

    If you want to check out the ISO file you downloaded see here ....

    https://blogs.msdn.com/jsacks/archive/2006/07/14/668645.aspx

    Must ask this - is it legal - direct from MS to you?
     
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    risko325

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    well..you know the answer...:D ...but i had the rc2 release and it was the same problem...
     
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    I am using a Vista RTM 64 bit from MSDN and the DVD loads and then just stops.
    Tyan motherboard with 2 AMD Opterons, 2 gig mem, 120 gig IDE HD, PNY Nvidia 7300 Gt video(PCI-express). I previously had Server 2003 64 bit on this machine. Yes, it is a test bed machine. I just loaded XP SP2 and ran the Advisor- no issues! (the advisor will not run on 64 bit O/S).

    I used the master DVD that worked on other machines. I reburned the iso using Nero at 2x with verification. I have started with a HD with Xp on it- no luck. I used a blank HD- still just sits there- boots from DVD then says loading, then green bar starts and then stops. No drive activity light.

    Because of the problems, I also disconnected the firewire card, Creative labs sound card, network cable.

    Still green bar just sits...Any suggestions?
     
  15. 2007/01/01
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    Thanks Bill- It would not install under XP since it is the 64 bit version. I tried.
    Also no anti-virus programs were ever loaded (on the XP).

    I can take the Nvidia card (PCI-Express) out and try a generic PCI video board, but that defeats the Aero capability.

    One last thing to try is to update the Bios from 1.01 to 2.0 but I really really hate to do that since it is working under Server 2003 64 bit and XP also.

    I think I will try the video adapter first...
     
  17. 2007/01/01
    Bill Castner

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    Did you try the signed Vista64 drivers I linked?
    Or is that what you already were using?

    I would be tempted to install non-Aero with a adapter swap, and then once vista was up and running swap the adapter back to its original setup, update the drivers and go aero.
     
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    Bill,
    I would agree. Problem is that it does not even get to the point where you can put a driver in before it bombs.

    Another thought- is to wipe out a hard drive- no formatting even and then try to load it (the blank hard drive was formated with NTFS).

    I will try tomorrow night. Have work to do now(grin).
     
  19. 2007/02/04
    PabloB

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    The only fix, and it has worked a few times now, is to download and update to the latest motherboard BIOS. I just did an MSI K9N Platinum today.
    cheers:cool:
     
  20. 2007/03/26
    inventor00

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    1 Vista problem solved

    Upgraded the CMOS, fried it, got vendor to replace, still dead. Sent to Motherboard mfg, they said it was fine- turns out since CMOS update, the specs for the memory for that board had changed in the 1 yr - I owned the board- now ECC, buffered and registered memory- so $250 later for new ECC, etc. 2 gig memory, the Vista drive went ahead and finished it's install.

    Video on motherboard only good for a 1.0 performance ranking, so I put in PNY Nvidia 7300GT to get up to 4.4 rating. Still waiting for motherboard mfg to come out with Vista drivers for gigabit lan , etc. but Vista Business is running.
     

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