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Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by Spanner, 2012/12/14.

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    Spanner

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    Our Computer Forum, for the over 50's, has nine computers (networked) each is wired to a Netgear Router via ethernet cables.
    Our Members are becoming interested in laptops and Ipads.

    How can we adapt the Router to be wireless as well, is there a plug-in device that will go into a spare ethernet port and has a wireless arial, thereby allowing wireless connections for laptops etc.
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    Yes! Get what's known as an Access Point.

    A wifi router = wired router with built in access point.

    Access point = stand alone wifi unit.

    Here's how to set it up:

    1. Get an access point. examples

    2. Connect it to a computer using a cat5 cable (wired ethernet cable).

    3. Open a Web browser and connect to its control panel using its IP address, probably 192.168.1.1.

    4. Change its IP address to 1 number higher than the router IP address. For example, if the router is 192.168.1.1, change the AP IP to 192.168.1.2.

    5. Close the browser and reconnect to the AP using its new IP.

    6. Set the AP gateway address to same IP as router.

    7. Set the AP DNS server to same IP as router.

    8. Assign the AP's SSID a unique name, e.g. Spanner-net.

    9. Disable the AP's DHCP server.

    10. Configure any wifi security, preferable WPA2 TKIP.

    11. Disconnect computer and connect the cat5 to a free port on the router.

    That's it!
     
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    Spanner

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    Thanks TonyT,I have a spare Netgear DG834G, 54Mbps Wireless ADSL Modem Router, that has the antenna, and 4 ethernet connections. Would that serve the purpose?
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    It might work, you'd have to try it.

    You'll have to do essentially the same as what I wrote above. And you will also have to disable its SPI firewall.

    That Netgear is a 5 in 1 product: modem, router, switch, access point and stateful packet inspection firewall. You'll only be using its switch and access point, by disabling or turning off all the other features.
     
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    Hi Tony, hope you had a good Christmas, our forum is back this Monday so will start the wireless installation as you have described, will let you know how we get on, Happy New Year.
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    any news?
     
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    Hi Tony, update on this issue.
    Have been dealing with members PC problems since Christmas. will get back to this SAP.
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    Understood.
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I do this in college and it is best ot put the "daisy-chained" router on a different subnet 192.168.2.0 /24. If you daisy chain the router on the same subnet as your
    original router, the two will fight with each other demanding to be the DHCP server and you will see some of your hosts losing access. Even though the new AP is on a different subnet, there is a built in static route to the *.*.1.0 /24 network
     
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    Not so if use a stand alone access point or a wifi router and disable dhcp in the second device, thus all addresing is handled by the first router on the same subnet.
     
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    Yeah i'd agree with you there on the AP part, but recall most if not all home routers are configured by default to start the addressing at .100 and stop at 149 even though the subnet mask is set a /24 giving you supposedly 254 addresses. People don't want to screw around with their pre configured addressing. If you want more than 50 adresses, I would set the 2nd router in a different subnet and also nobody could ping that subnet unless a static or dynamic routing protocol is installed --just a security enhancement

    I just wanted to comment I'll get out now :cool:
     
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    I always use the same subnet for my clients because none ever have more than 10-15 wifi clients at the most, even my business clients. And it makes it easier to t-shoot common problems, esp when have network printers.

    If I had to setup a hotspot for a store or shop I would use a different subnet and lock down the top level.
     
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    static everybody in sight and cut down the mask so no freeloaders creep in

    I promise I am out of this thread
     
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    Spanner

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    Update on this, To TonyT and Elcajongunsfan, (Where did you get that handle from ?.)
    Have been messing about with this project since Christmas. The Community Centre, our forum operates from is installing wifi, waiting to see if there is any problems with signals as both systems will be in the same building.
    Any thoughts on this ?
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    my assumption here is that you have one wireless router already and want to expand the sphere of influence

    If using an Access Point give it the same SSID name but put on a different channel. This will give you the 'roaming' effect. (Leaving one sphere of influence and entering another but still connected)

    I really promise I am out of this thread

    The guns fan is I'm a Guns n' Roses fan :cool:
     
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    Thanks for the Guns n' Roses Explanation.
    Our over 50's forum has 9 computers all networked with a wired router, no wifi. I have got an access point ready to install, the Community Centre have their own wifi in the bar and are thinking of extending the range throughout the building. Not sure if we have any conflict when/if we both go on line.
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    Use a different channel.
     
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    Set one on channel 1 and the other on channel 11, that way you have the least amount of frequency overlap.
     
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