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Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by savagcl, 2005/12/01.

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    savagcl Lifetime Subscription

    savagcl Geek Member Thread Starter

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    WinXp Home, SP2.

    I updated from 1.0.7 to 1.5RC3 and finally 1.5 (released final).
    I did not uninstall any versions.
    I now have 3 of the alphanumeric folders for firefox with the following paths.

    1. C:\Doc&Sett\owner\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\alphanum\
    most files are here including the cache.trash folder(empty).

    2. C:\Doc&Sett\owner\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\
    Profiles\AlphaNum\only 1 folder (cache) and 1 file (XUL ) are present.

    3. C:\Doc&Sett\owner\LocalSettings\ApplicationData\Mozilla\Firefox\
    Profiles\AlphaNum2\only 1 folder (cache) and 1 file (XUL ) are present.

    They all use the same user (savagcl) and firefox works great but i was
    wondering which is the real firefox? This so i can delete the other 2......

    Note: #2 and #3 above are within the same profile folder.

    Guess i could just watch the cache growing and delete the other one but
    thought i'd check before i mess something up. :)

    Thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    captjlddavis Well-Known Member

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    savagcl,

    Someone will correct me if I am wrong
    From what I observe so far:

    1. The files (cache and XUL) in the:
    c:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<number><profilename> are created by 1.5rc3 and
    1.5 final -
    2. cache and xul for 1.0.7 are still in the profile location folder.
    ie;
    C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<number>.<name> I also believe that any profiles that you have stored OUTSIDE of the NORMAL location that 1.5 uses will have the cache and xul - but I am not real sure about this.

    If you use a profile for 1.0.7 - while in 1.5 final, I believe that FF wil create the cache and xul in the Local Settingsfolder.

    Cache and xul are transit files and can be deleted with little effect. They will be rebuilt -
    I just deleted the the profile folder inLocal Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
    and it was rebuilt....SO....

    Bottom line (to me anyway) is that the only profile files that should be in
    \Documents and Settings\user\[color= "red"]Local Settings[/color]\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ are for active profiles for 1.5rc3 and/or 1.5 final.

    edit - Seamonkey MAY also use the "Local Settings" folder for cache and xul ?

    Let you conscience be your guide -

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    thanks, captjlddavis,

    I deleted the extra cache, XUL from #3 and done see any ill effects.

    Since those files are transit, would it be possible to move them back to the
    original path (#1)?
    Or would they just be re-created under the local settings?

    Think i'll try it.

    again, thanks,
    savagcl
     
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    Don't really know.......you might try and change the location of a NEW profile to another spot and see if that does it. :confused:

    Might also be an entry in about: config - but again I have not tried

    regards:captjldavis
     
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    Most interesting (from me). I decided to get the zip file of FF1.6a1, and with each page, at this website only, it times out, and have to reload. Probably some bug!
    I upgraded , internally from 1.4.1 to 1,5rc1,2,3, and have not seen anything extra. I, then uninstalled 1.5rc3, and installed 1.5, but used the same profile all along. And, I have two more profiles, one for 1.0.7, and another one for 1.6a1.
    In Local settings I have the same profiles, all with the xul.mfl file, one with no Cache folder, and the third in us with xpc.mfl.
     
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    Your milage may vary.

    I can not speak of FF 1.4.1 ? or any nightlies 1.6a1 -
    My observations and comments were based on FF 1.0.7 and 1.5 final. (both INSTALLED to E:\ drive) - no profiles were/are shared.

    I let FF install profiles to folder of its choice ( I do not like to use the term "default ")
    For the profile for 1.0.7 - there is a "Cache" and "xul" file in the profile folder.
    For the FF 1.5 profile, there is NO cache or xul in profile folder - it is in the "Local Setting" folder.

    I created an additional FF 1.5 profile and located it in "E:\FF_1.5_test ".
    It created the profile there and there is/was a "CACHE" and "xul" in that folder.

    The only "cache" and .xul files/folders in the:
    c:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ are for profiles created or used by FF 1.5

    There are a couple of other profiles listed that were created and used my Seamonkey 1a and 1b.

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Didnt do any good deleting the local settings folders. They were just recreated.
    I guess thats where they want them or its a carryover from the RC releases
    and just wasnt put back to "normal ".

    Got to wonder why the split tho..............

    Ah well, the future will reveal all.
    savagcl
     
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    Westside

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    I had no idea that there was an apparent duplication of files for the profiles, and I did not know, nor care if they existed. However, the files are only in the folders which I use for the three types of Firefox. Presumably, once a profile is removed, along with all its files, all the extra stuff should be gone.
    However there is no difference between my situation, when I, purposely created three profiles, and savagecl, who presumably did not.
    to me me alphanum, AlphaNum and AlphaNum2 are three profiles. What is going on in C:\Doc&Sett\owner\ApplicationData\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ ?
    Only one profile? Or three? That is the point I am trying to make. There is seem to be a duplication of files in the two paths. And, the files which are duplicated can be deleted, and then rebuilt.
     
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    captjlddavis

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    I am starting to get dizzy....

    I have two versions of FF

    FF -1.0.7
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7 ID:2005091517
    Based on Mozilla 1.7.12

    FF - 1.5 final
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5 ID:2005111116
    Based on Mozilla 1.8

    Mozilla 1.0.7 - profile name =ttskb4uz.FF_07_jim
    Profile stored in:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ttskb4uz.FF_07_jim\
    and contains the various Profile specific files (bookmarks,password, mime types etc )INCLUDING:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ttskb4uz.FF_07_jim\Cache\
    and XUL.mfl

    There is NO corresponding file in:
    c:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\

    FF 1.5 final - profile name=9s9goj95.jim_1.5_final
    Profile stored in:
    C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
    and contains the various profile specific files (bookmarks,mimetypes,passwords etc) IT DOES NOT CONTAIN THE CACHE FOLDER or XUL.mfl
    The CACHE folder and XUL.mfl files for FF 1.5 profiles are in:
    c:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\9s9goj95.jim_1.5_final\ - there are no other profile specific files stored in "Local Settings" folder that I can find.
    I see NO duplication of (cache and XUL.mfl) files, they are either in the Profile folder :
    Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
    or
    Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles
    not in both.

    This hold true for additional FF 1.5 profiles. Cache and xul in Local Setting folder - not in Profile folder

    Re-using an OLD profile may leave some files behind.

    To determine WHICH cache AND apparently XUL.mfl file, check about:cache and note the directory that is being used.

    Again I apologize if I am adding to the confusion

    regards:captjlddavis
     
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    Westside

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    My apology for having gotten dizzy, in transit.
    I my case, I have the Cache folder and a xul.mfl file in my usual profile location for only the 1.0.7 browser. Curiously there is also a xul.mfl file of different size, in the corresponding local settings directory.
    Both 1.5 and 1.6a1 profiles do not have neither Cache folder nor xul.mfl files, in the usual location, while they are in Local Settings|App.Data.
    In addition, the 1.6a1 Local Settings|App.data folder has a xpc.mfl file.
    I agree with the capt. about the reason why there may be descrepancies. since the xul.mfl files are rebuilt, I should end up with no duplication.
    And, that is correct. There is no xul.mfl file in the 1.0.7 profile|Local Settings|App.data, nor anything else for that matter. The deleted Cache folder and xul.mfl in the the same profile|App.data are rebuilt.

    The Cache can be cleanup up from Tools|Options|Privacy|Cache. No need to go to the hard drive.
    And, Seamonkey has, indeed, the Cache directory and the xul.mfl file in the Local Settings|App.Data.
    I had a Cache folder, from the past, in the location of the profile folder. (i.e. where the other files and folders). I deleted the folder, and it was not rebuilt.

    The moral of the story is to forget about the entire thing.
     
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    Interesting!

    OK, I now have the cache and XUL in the local settings for FF 1.5. All other
    FF files are in the usual place (owner\App Data\mozilla\FF\profiles\A-N).

    The Mozilla 1.0.7 follows the same path (owner\App Data\mozilla\FF\profiles\A-N)
    but of course the A-N is different and does have the cache, XUL imbedded.

    No harm done, just seemed strange to split it up. Wondering what was the
    reasoning?

    thanks for the help,
    savagcl
     
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    Westside

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    I will let you know if I come up with anything.
    It seems to be safe to delete the files in Local Settings. Only by deleting them, I was able to determine there was no duplication. I had used the same profile for more than version, with no ill effect. However, after cleaning up everything, I see that 1.0.7 has everything in the profile location which you know, and sometimes after 1.0.7, the split occurred.
     

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