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Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Christer, 2008/05/27.

  1. 2008/05/27
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    I am trying to figure out Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 and have a question. This was not a clean installation of 2.0.0.14 but an upgrade from 1.0.6 (I think) which means that the storage location on D: already existed.

    In the storage location "D:\Mozilla\Thunderbird\Mail" there are two subfolders, "Local folders" and "pop.bredband.net ".

    In Thunderbird > Tools > Account settings, "pop.bredband.net" is listed but all folder options are "Local folders" only. Further down, "Local folders" is listed and it states that "this is a special account with no identity connected to it ".

    I have used TB a little, in parallel with OE. When I check out the storage location, most things seem to happen in "Local folders ". I deleted all received and sent messages. Next, I compressed all folders. Changes took place in "Local folders" but not in "pop.bredband.net ".

    I would expect the opposite ... :confused: ... is there an explanation?

    Thanks for your time,
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  2. 2008/05/27
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    Christer,

    Check here:
    Tools | Account Settings | Server Settings
    Click the "Advanced" Tab
    Disable: Global Inbox (Local Folders Account)
    Enable: Inbox for this server's account

    BTW, that is a giant step from 1.06 to 2.0.0.14, and if I were you, I would do a clean install. Download the full version from here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Ramona,
    I did download the full install but it was installed on top of 1.0.6 and yes, it has been over two years since the last time I tried to convince myself that FF/TB are good alternatives to IE/OE. That time, it fell through on the receipts not working in TB.

    I have plans to roll back (using Ghost) and uninstall 1.0.6 prior to installing 2.0.0.14. I will also rename the existing folders on D:.

    Thanks for the hint on the server settings! Do I understand it correctly? The individual account(s) are for keeping mail from different accounts separated but the local folders account kan be the target of several accounts, right?

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    Ramona

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    Christer,

    A good idea to do a clean reinstall of Fx, as there are bound to be many incompatible files from the 1.x to the 2.x version.

    You understand correctly: using the Inbox for individual accounts setting will place only the mail for that specific account.

    Using the Global Inbox setting encompasses all mail from all accounts. During the accounts setup, you are given the choice of using the Global setting. Note that it is enabled by default. Look for it here:

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    Christer,
    1. there is no way that 2.0.0.14 would install on top of 1.0.6, unless you did not uninstall 1.0.6. That's the proper way to begin, at least. However, if you start your installer, and go on from there you will install on top.
    2.Since your program and profile are separate entities, you will continue perpetuating any previous problems. You have two separate posts, for Firefox and Thunderbird. The two programs are separate, and if you, originally, created profiles to be in the D drive, they will go on that way, unless you create a new profile. But, best of all is to deal with one problem at the time, and, proceed with Firefox, which is equivalent to Internet Explorer, separately from Thunderbird, which is equivalent to Outlook Express.
    Ramona's hint is correct. Your problem is in not noticing that the newer versions of TB using global settings (i.e. all accounts are in one bunch).
    Personally, I am using Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 with a profile, originally, created for 1.0.8. At this point, I am quite confused by the way you present your case.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Ramona,
    I never went through the Account Wizard since 2.0.0.14 was installed on top of 1.0.6 [not uninstalled, still there with the old folders on D:]. Maybe I used the Global Inbox when I tried 1.0.6.

    As soon as time permits, I will roll back, uninstall 1.0.6 (remove folders and all), reinstall 2.0.0.14 and take it from there.

    Westside,

    I installed on top because I suppose that's how all these future updates will get there. Maybe from 1.0.6 to 2.0.0.14 was too big a leap.

    That thought has crossed my mind. That's why I will try a clean installation with the old folders deleted (or renamed). When I did install on top of 1.0.6, there was an option to import OE and other accounts but I can't tell if the old account on D: (created from within 1.0.6 and the profile manager) was reused or overwritten.

    I think that my questions regarding TB have been answered and also those about FF in the other thread (I know that they are separate). What remains is the final decision to abandon IE and OE in favour of FF and TB when I give my old computer a fresh start from square one with XP SP3.

    Me too ... :p ... ! The mess may be due to the language barrier but it works two ways. With the Swedish version installed, I'm having a hard time finding out what things are called in English and the other way around. No matter which version I install ... :eek: ... I'm in trouble.

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  8. 2008/05/28
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    Christer,
    there is nothing that I can do about the language, but there is no need to attempt to import, delete, or rename the folders. As long as the new profile has the accounts set up, you can copy the old files, and paste into the new profile. The name "Inbox ", or "Sent" has been around forever, and you can copy/paste such files (which show up at folders in your program) from anything going back to Netscape4.x.
    It is vital that this be done with the program closed, from Windows Explorer.
    Renaming the old files may be a good idea, if you don't want the old Inbox to overwrite the present Inbox. Ramona has an excellent writeup . Whatever worked for Netscape works for Thunderbird. Just note that the path:< path >\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\profilename\xxxxxxxx.slt\Mail\pop.accountname.net for Netscape is changed in Thunderbird, from profilename\xxxxxxxx.slt to xxxxxxxx.profilename
     
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    I took TB back to square one (rolled back using Ghost - uninstalled 1.0.x - installed 2.0.0.14) and prior to opening TB, I created a new profile in profilemanager. D:\Mozilla\Thunderbird was the folder I had prepared and D:\Mozilla\Thunderbird\Mail\pop.bredband.net is the complete path. No "xxxxxxxx.profilename" in the path.

    I'll test it a bit to see if I like it.

    Christer
     
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    I am using only the C drive, and, if I go to a mail account, the entire path is:C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxxxx.TB2.0\Mail\pop.aim.com
    But, it possible that you don't have a Profiles Step, since you have your profile in the D drive. A Thunderbird profile is, definitely, not in a Mozilla folder, which is the default folder for Firefox.
    In my case, I gave the profile a name like xxxxxxx.TB2.0 so that it would be more easily identifiable. But, whatever works for you is fine.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I created D:\Mozilla\Firefox and D:\Mozilla\Thunderbird to have the profiles under one roof. I don't understand why the "Firefox-folder" is under "C:\Documents and Settings\Christer Engdahl\Application Data\Mozilla\" but not the "Thunderbird-folder" which is at C:\Documents and Settings\user name\Application Data\. It disturbs my sense of order.

    Christer
     
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    Christer,

    In the beginning... separating the Profiles from the Program Files folder allows you to uninstall Firefox without losing your settings, and if something goes wrong with an update, your information will still be there. It also means you don't have to reinstall Firefox to clear your information, or troubleshoot a problem.

    However, the Profiles folder can be moved to your D: drive if that's what you prefer, and to restore your sense of order. :D Here are the instructions for moving your Profile, which offer several options: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder
     
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  13. 2008/05/30
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Ramona,
    thanks for the hints on moving the profiles folder. I read up on those a few years back and created an "annex" in "Moving Windows XP default folders ".

    Christer
     
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