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System Restore during start-up

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    I have thought about disabling System Restore altogether, relying on Norton Ghost instead.

    I came to think of something I heard/read about Windows getting replacement files from the Restore Folder if it should find a damaged one during start-up or when running.

    Is this correct and if so, would it be wise to keep SR activated in minimum space on the System Partition?

    Thanks for Your time,
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    No. XP gets its replacement files from the dllcache and not SR. There is really no need for 2 backup thingees.
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hi Abraxas,
    thanks for Your response!

    That makes SR history in my box.

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    After you have turned it off in the usual way (System Properties), you might want to go also to the services configuration and disable the SR service. It has a habit of restarting itself when changes are made on drives and sometimes it can happen without your awareness. Disabling the service keeps it off.

    The System Volume Information folders can be deleted, too, but you need to add yourself to the permissions to do so.
     
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    Thanks for the advice!

    When setting up my PC for WinXP I was planning to format the partitions other than the system partition after disabling SR.

    I will go by Your advice to remove the SVI folder from the system partition and also to disable the Service. As I understand it, this is done in msconfig by unticking under the Services tab.

    I don´t know exactly how to add myself to the permissions. I understand Your comment as neither the administrator has this permission and that it has to be set in the folder options.

    Right?
     
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    It is probably not such a good idea to untick something under msconfig when there are more direct ways of controlling services. In XP Pro, Run: services.msc to access the services configuration and turn it off.

    In Home the services are accessible through the Administrative Tools in the Control Panel (I have not used Home myself, but this is my understanding).

    As far as the permissions comment goes, if you go to Folder Options and choose not to use simple file sharing, many more sharing and security options are added to the property sheet of files and folders.

    When you go to the security area of the SVI folder, you will see that only the System has full access. Click the Add button, add your name, check the full access boxes, and you can then open the folder and delete it if you choose. By default, no one has access to this folder or can open it.
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Well, when I´m going XP on my own computer, I´m going Pro but now I´m fiddling with my frinds LapTop which has Home installed. Why ...... :confused: ...... oh, why do the procedures have to be different?

    It seems like most of the stuff one catches on the web apply to Home and as a potential Pro-user one has to be cautious.

    Thanks again,
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    In almost all situations, something that can be done in Home can be done exactly the same way in Pro. But the converse is not true---not everything that can be done in Pro can be done in Home.

    An example serves to illustrate. Say someone wanted to disable access to Internet Options. In Home, a registry edit would be necessary. In Pro, exactly the same registry edit would have exactly the same effect, but in Pro you could use the Group Policy Editor to set this same policy with a more user-friendly and trackable method.

    Home is Pro with its hands tied behind it and all knowledge of domains removed :eek: .
     
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    Abraxas - I think that with XP-home, Simple File Sharing is the only option and you can't avoid it.
     
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    Well, I´ve posted so many questions that the rest of You wish that my hands ...... :rolleyes: ......

    Then, I take it as, in Pro, the Indexing Service should be disabled using Run - services.msc too, rather than in Administrator Tools?
     
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    Now, that reply gives food for thought ......

    ...... do You mean that You wish my hands were tied behind my back ...... :( ...... or do You mean that I´m right about disabling services ...... :) ...... ?

    Thanks for the link,
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    Really, Newt ? Nothing but the simple file sharing? It's worse than I thought :rolleyes:!

    What about encryption? Is that available in HE?


    Christer --------
    If you're talking about my post, I'm not ready to tie anyone up just yet ;) .

    The Services that are accessed through Administrative Tools and the console you access through services.msc are one and the same in Pro. Just different ways of getting there.

    Home doesn't support the MMC (MS Management Console) so there are no .msc snap-ins available.

    I read a great deal right after XP was released about people trying to add the Group Policy console to the Home Edition, but never heard of any successes in that endeavor.
     
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    Dhrister

    YES re. disabling services !!!! As for the other always pleased to share what little I know :) - for as long as it takes.
     
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    Hi all!

    Thanks for that, there´s always the possibility to overstay ones welcome or to wear people down ...... I just saw the opportunity to check the situation ...... "Home is Pro with its hands tied behind it ", triggered my sense of humour ......

    When You stop responding ...... :( ...... I´ll hold my horses ...... :rolleyes: ...... for a while ...... :D ......

    Christer
     
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