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Strange IP/Hardware Conflict Message

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by KaleidiScope, 2004/12/10.

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  1. 2004/12/10
    KaleidiScope

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    Using the desktop computer here,a message comes up on the desktop
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    The system has detected a conflict for IP address ###.###.###.## with the system having hardware address ##.##.##.##.LL
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    I am using a DSL connection with a Linksys GB ethernet card. 256^/340v dsl speed.

    This problem came up for the previous instalation of the op.sys.wich I had completed re-installed it to cure.Including Network Card Software,ISP software,Op Sys Software.

    Incidently I had/have been having a message with a start problem consisting of something to do with an Msn32.dll error message.This problem is remedied either by re-installing a network dialer And/or the Microsoft Network Client software [MSKB#s166832,302590,243431,]

    While this basically re-installs these softwares and cures that problem.This particular message I really dont understand what its about.MSKB #230140 speaks of ICS in regards of a 'somewhat similar error message (most I can find of it).

    But this is a single desktop computer w/o any type of network configuration in that style of an ICS client/host situation.

    =============My speculation===
    My first speculation is to believe that perhaps the dial-up adapter can be removed since ''this isn't a modem type dialer situation" ",and perhaps something is written to the registry with this 'not used ''device'',wich conficts when IExplorer is used.

    Its only speculation though.As I also speculate the firewall could be giving me this dialog box,having been installed to be configured with the wrong device information when It picked up registry information.
    [speculation ].

    Then this KB article here:MsKB 234573...
    ..the re-install includes W98 (IE4),W98SE updates(IE5),Internet Explorer Updates[cd] (IE6). Then utilizing the online updating for compnents.

    Problem is should I just uninstall the device: 'dial-up adapter ? Am I looking too hard to be serious for some simple control somewhere ? [ ]
     
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    What OS and service pack?

    How many PCs on your network?

    What is acting as your DHCP server if you have one?
     
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    KaleidiScope

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    But this is a single desktop computer w/o any type of network configuration in that style of an ICS client/host situation :cool: W98 4.10.2222.
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    DSL BOX .. with Ethernet Cable to Nic...Single Line..Service Provider DSL Modem. Service Provider Connection Software:(
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    The computer is not set up for multiple users.File and Printer sharing is not installed.

    Microsoft System Information [ ]
    Iv got Q#s for updates to W98,W98 SE.
    For IE SP1 # Qs (most recently critical for W98).

    One more note Microsoft System Information..Connectivity:
    Connection Preference ....Never Dial
    EnableHTTP1.1 .... 1
    ProxyHttp1.1 ..... 0

    LAN Settings
    AutoConfigProxy ...wininet.dll
    AutoProxyDetectMode ..Disable
    AutoConfigURL ..{blank
    Proxy ..Disable
    ProxyServ ..{blank
    ProxyOverride ..{blank

    ****Currently no connections are set up****

    =====+Think now did I use connect to Internet Wizard,or use Service Providers Software for connecting?(dont know if I used wizard or not)..Think I DID use the wizard along with configuring it myself..DHCP is not mentioned within anything I see within Network (control panel).

    Thanks for reply.. :eek:
     
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    Thanks for the added information. And yes, I did notice the "But this is a single desktop computer w/o any type of network configuration in ....." when you first posted it but I nearly always double check before starting to work on a problem.

    You are on a network BTW. Not yours in this case but the ISP has a large network of customers with all the folks who use their DSL service. They just set things up so you all don't see each other.

    No ICS though, I completely agree on that one.

    Your system is getting IP address information assigned by a DHCP server located somewhere in your ISP's network and some sort of mis-configuration there is the most likely source of the error you are seeing.

    The system has detected a conflict for IP address ###.###.###.## with the system having hardware address ##.##.##.##.LL

    I need to see the IP address and hardware address information if you still have it or when you get it next. Please send it to me via email since I can't be sure at this point if it would be safe to post or not. The first parts of the hardware address will ID the maker of the network card and if it is a linksys number, we aren't any better off but if it is another maker, it says for sure you are dealing with a conflict with another system using the same ISP.
     
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    KaleidiScope

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    -------- :cool: ------------


    There is a couple of places to notice my Mac address for my Nic card.It reads in Hexadecimal.(dont think it matches these).
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    Got to thinking,..the parse of this message is "system''- the 'system having xx hardware address. So the dsl going to another computer/system ''has..a..conflict.." " ?


    Problem with this message is as I said earlier here,cant get behind it.The actual computer may or may not be connected using the ISP software (Merely connected via the always on ethernet,dsl)through actually connecting.[maybe erroneous-speculative].

    Usually though I am doing something in a multitasking scenario as the IE rests in background minimized windows.

    Using Zone Alarm 5.5 freebie edition.

    I should probably tshoot my ISP an email.
    ====== :D ======jabber jaw...
    Guess I shouldn't extend this particular problem with facts. I use mostly off the shelf books to figure what alls about Windows98. Whenever it was time to discuss the ideas of 'dialer,or dial-up-networking, the instructions are never conclusive. Or precise enough, as here the configuration change to a DSL isn't specific for 'network,or 'dial-up from what I see told about them in the text Im using as reference to W98.

    Does a DSL configured computer use Dynamic naming service ,on a singular connnected computer. ? These are seen in 'dial-up networking. Or ideas of several connected computer to 'Network,in as noted here ICS,or using a router type configuration..with or without an internet connection. (office type situation ).

    Think that of the several 5 or so op.sys. help books Ive got, DSL has an entire paragraph in each. Mostly only telling of the availability of DSL. Lots of people using cable out there.

    Should that dial-up adapter be on the computer here ? Within Network w protocols.I had originally perceived that re-installing W98,W98SE to solve for browser problems (had ATT proprietary browser etc._) . Same message was present.Eventually caching on drives wouldn't run.IE would simply refuse to load. Mouse seems to get wild .Here I have fresh re-install,with same message.Using Updated IE SP1(previous IE prob wouldn't save ''As Web Archive "- this missing in save as possibilities.[ }] jabber off.. :rolleyes:

    Thanks for your replies again newt.
     
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    You do need to ask the ISP about it. From your email (and no worries since the IP is private so not open to outside attack)

    IP addess 169.254.239.99 (called APIPA by microsoft) is autoassigned by a PC that is set to use DHCP but can't find a DHCP server. The article will give details but the PC just gives itself an address in the 169.254.x.x range so it is possible for two systems to try to use the same one.

    hardware address 00:60:38:xx:xx:xx That indicates a Nortel device so not yours.

    Given that info so the ISP can't b.s. you, get with their tech support about the issue.
     
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    KaleidiScope

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    yes

    the DSL modem I have IS a Nortel dsl. But the address as seen from winipcfg is not that of seen for PPoE.

    Yok. Ill reference our conversation here with my isp if thats ok'...

    Know there are probably some other DSL people using same ISP in the neighborhood.

    Thanks a bunch.Happy Holidays.
     
  9. 2004/12/12
    KaleidiScope

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    Solver

    for this is a setting within the ISPs DSL software. Switching to the Protocol driver. Rather than the 'Filter Driver - wich was used in my instance. Within the service providers installed software.

    Since Im using W98/W98SE wich requires the ISP software to connect, unlike XP (I believe).

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    Lucky I didn't do a user name of 'Sol4x here at WindowsBBS.com . Although that would fit the situation here for me. Think along with the connection TS(troubleshooting), I have an Audigy 2 sound card , A VIVO video card,and a DVD Writer/DVD onboard the KT133 [pc133] board here.

    For these components think solvers :


    Audigy 2 ....sound and video is out of synch or clips.
    system studders when second CD is used to access data or
    play cd.(connected to aux,following install of driver for card).

    [x]Enable the Aux panel within Multimedia in
    Windows volume control.
    [x]Lower Sound Acceleration with Directx

    + Multimedia Control Panel - Playback-Advance- " "SHOW AUX" "[enable aux]
    + System Information -Directx Configuration -Sound- Sound
    acceleration [lower or raise]


    Video card ..same as audigy+DVD playback symptons .

    [x]lower video acceleration
    [x]lower performance preferences in card drivers control panel

    +My Computer -Performance-Video[lower-raise]
    AND==
    +Control Panel - Display-Settings [adjust your video preferences to nominal rather than performance within video cards 3d controls]

    DVD/DVDWR [nagging error message,tells of warning for ASPI drivers being old or out of date]

    [x]update the drivers for the ASPIs

    +ATAPI drivers....Adaptec has newer ATAPI drivers (for some software installs) if your system is not that of a most recent hardware profiles .

    ++++++++

    Could save somebody some problems as these symptons appears to be something terribly wrong with the system,although,no apharent hardware conflict will appear. An it beats uninstalling the operating system to find the controls for the solver,or opening the computer case,or clammoring with BIOS for the unknowns. Wich can be symptons of any of the same.

    :cool: :confused: :)
     
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    KaleidiScope

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    What about that DUN.1.4 -anything to do with my DSL P.P.O.E ?

    _____________________________ :eek: March 16 2005

    Just read a post concerning updating the DUN to 1.4. Wonderin if this would be of any help here for this problem. The problem still persists. I have kept a few of the message IP addresses for the past few mos.

    Read some stuff bout 'policies and the likes for XP Prof.Areas of concern to me,is fact of the 'hand off for policies of computers on like minded networks.Even though this is a client machine,running w98SE,some components .net DAO stuff like this worry me a little since I haven't a clue as to what they pertain to. Any techy posed with the question here would tell me (as you have yourself ) that the DSL connected computer Im using IS on a network.

    The remedy my ISP told me only goes as far as that wich could concern them (at that session) wich was to switch filter driver to protocal driver. But my joy at reply from them was soon relinquished by the same continued message.

    Ive got a windows XP Update Home Edition wich Im going to install in not too many days future. But if its true the components are only a trait of the later XP style operating systems of these 'policies. I say policies because the machine acts exactly as if what user priviledges there are are just 'monkey shocked' (only thing can be done is use mouse to an 'OK message). I've got new electronics on here wich is affected,tv/sound card - wich dont recover,must be restarted.

    Just jawboning.for now. Will take the W98SE offline.....Im only speculating though of course. Have no idea what makes THIS machine accepting such a message (clue enough). Had DSL modem replaced.

    What about that DUN.1.4 -anything to do with my DSL P.P.O.E ? Is that an OLD 'update ? Or pertain the my 'network' (auhmm) ''stacks .?

    :rolleyes: Hi ya.
     
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