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Spybot S&D immunization

Discussion in 'Malware and Virus Removal Archive' started by Christer, 2004/09/23.

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  1. 2004/09/23
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    This is XP-SP2 related but has more bearing on Spybot S&D ...... :confused: ...... I think:

    After installing XP-SP2, is it necessary or even advisable to "Permanently running bad download blocker for Internet Explorer "?

    Thanks for Your time,
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  2. 2004/09/23
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    Christer,

    Nothing like 'belt and braces' :) - I have that active in Spybot with no ill effects that I am aware of.
     
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  4. 2004/09/23
    Christer

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    Hi Pete,
    I didn't expect anything less from You ...... ;) ...... !

    I was thinking along the lines of conflicting firewalls so why not conflicting download blockers. As I understand it, XP-SP2 has that function too since the user is prompted through the Information Field (or whatever it's called).

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  5. 2004/09/23
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    Hi Christer,

    Curious as to what prompted your question. I don't think SP2 has a download blocker of any kind aside from the usual ActiveX for which there is more info from the system about then before.

    I use SSD strictly for scanning so have none of the add-on features enabled, but would not have thought about whether to run them w/ SP2 or not, would just have kept running them only making sure it worked, as I have with everything else I run.

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  6. 2004/09/23
    Christer

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    Hi Charles!

    Well, with XP-SP2 at default security settings, we can't even download an executable file, such as a program installer, to the local HDD without being prompted for confirmation through the Information Field. I questioned if the additional protection from SS&D was needed on XP-SP2 systems.

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  7. 2004/09/23
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    Hi Christer,

    we can't even download an executable file, such as a program installer, to the local HDD without being prompted for confirmation

    Forgot about that, I shut it off from day 1.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Don't know about necessary but I run it with SP2 and it does not seem to hurt anything so I plan to keep on running it.

    I haven't had a critter other than a few tracking cookies in quite a while and I do visit some really nasty sites at times trying to work on some of the posts in this section (but only for that, you understand. :eek: ) and I'm of the opinion that I ain't gonna mess with something that is working.
     
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  9. 2004/09/24
    Christer

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    Charles,

    I searched high and low but didn't find out how it is turned off. Is there any other means than lowering the security settings?

    Newt,

    I roll back using Ghost and load other images every now and then. I guess that loose track of when the computer is immunized and when it isn't. I actually don't notice any difference but then, I don't visit any fishing sites ...... :rolleyes: ...... sorry, I mean fishy sites!

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  10. 2004/09/24
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    I've been using the immunize feature with no conflicts. Click the WSC icon in the NA and there are settings choices on the left side to turn off the IE download blocker. Like Charles, I shut that "feature" off almost immediately after SP2. I don't download anything "questionable ", anyway.

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    I haven't been able to change the settings to produce the WSC icon on this installation. Maybe something went wrong when installing SP2 on top.

    I will have to restore a Ghost Image of a different installation to see how it should work.

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  12. 2004/09/24
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Johanna,

    That brings me to the Windows Cecurity Center, the same as can be reached from the Control Panel.

    The only settings I can find are for displaying the WCS-icon in the NA. Three options can be ckecked/unchecked: Automatic Updates, FireWall and AntiVirus.

    I can't find any settings for the Information Bar or the Download Blocker.

    I have read Use the Internet Explorer Information Bar

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  13. 2004/09/24
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    Hi Christer,

    I think a little confusion here and I think I'm the author of it.

    Quoting you can't even download an executable file, such as a program installer, to the local HDD without being prompted for confirmation has nothing to do with SP2 if I'm remembering correctly. This option about being notified about downloads is in the IE tools > Internet options > security tab > custom and scroll down to "downloads" and there is the check box for that option. At least that's what I think this is about.

    On further thought, I set that to notify me and kept it that way. This is the setting that gives you the "save to HD" or "open" dialog. This is old. I don't remember any added dialog from SP2 on this. I shut the WSC from running in the NA by unchecking those boxes to the left referred to by Johanna.

    Hope this clears up the confusion.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Christer

    IE>Help>contents>Internet Explorer's Information Bar
     
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    Christer

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    Charles,

    I too believe that option was there pre SP2 and the confirmation window when downloading isn't what's new. The fact that I have to click the Information Bar and tell it to allow the download prior to getting the "old box" is new.

    If that new layer of security really makes a difference, then I probably will let it stay at default settings and learn to live with it.

    Bill,
    thanks for that!

    I had actually seen that information before somewhere but not in the help section. I am probably trying to sponge up too much information ...... ;) ...... confusing myself in the process!

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  16. 2004/09/24
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    Hi Christer,

    How would it make any difference? It's not a "new" or extra layer of security - doesn't do anything new. IMO, its just doubling up on asking you the same thing. A great many of these new SP2 dialogs are just that, asking confirmation of old settings.

    Hope I don't sound too elitest, but these dialogs are of value to users that have not been aware of MS's default settings. People around here are very much aware of them and have been the subject of numerous threads as you well know.

    Regards - Charles
     
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  17. 2004/09/24
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    Sorry, Christer, with putting the new comp together, adjusting to SP2 and everything else, I was wrong about WSC being the way to shut off the download blocker. I must have shut off that yellow IE bar when I set my settings in IE like Charlesvar described. Scroll down on this page...

    http://www.snapfiles.com/xpsp2_downloadchanges.html

    Johanna
    sorry for the error
     
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  18. 2004/09/25
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Johanna,
    no worries ...... :) ...... as they say downunder!

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