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Slow Mozilla, or cookie problem?

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Luckyfish, 2002/06/04.

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  1. 2002/06/04
    Luckyfish

    Luckyfish Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ramona:
    Why am I CRAWLING instead of SURFING? I have all cookies enabled (because some sites wouldn't load completely otherwise), but am constantly 'clearing all cookies'. I am moving at a SNAIL'S pace!! I've checked 'start menu' and very little is there. Any suggestions?
    Thanx! Luckyfish:confused:
     
  2. 2002/06/04
    Ramona

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    Hi Luckyfish,

    Well.... you are below requirements to run the program:

    48 MB RAM with 8 MB shared Video Memory = 40 MB Memory
    300 MHz AMD Processor
    199 MB free HD space

    Your system is laboring to find the resources. I'm surprised you aren't having frequent crashes.

    Do you have this problem with IE, or if you still have Communicator, does it crawl?

    Ramona :D

    EDIT:
    I meant to ask you to run the Resource Meter when you slow down to a crawl. Let us know what it reports.

    Thankx!
     
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    Antony

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    Yeah,
    Again, I do recommend you consider getting a new computer later this year or next.

    If you don't like Windows, you can always go for Macintosh.
     
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    Ramona

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    Hi Luckyfish,

    I'm now wondering if you might have some spyware that is slowing you down?

    Do you use AdAware? If you don't you might want to download it:
    http://www.lavasoftusa.com/downloads.html
    The latest Ver. is 5.82.

    Also do a virus scan, just to be on the safe side.

    Do you also have a Firewall? If you don't, you might want to try ZoneAlarm:
    http://www.zonelabs.com/index.html

    Let us know,

    Ramona
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Ramona:

    I have both Adaware and ZoneAlarm--I will run Adaware and PC-Cillin now and report back to you. Could THEY BE the problem--or what the results show be the problem? I guess that's a premature question--I'll let you know what results say.

    Antony, I'm way too broke to buy a new computer right now. Want to do the best I can with what I already have.
    ;)

    Will report back what results of my scans are.

    Thanx! Luckyfish:)
     
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    Ramona

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    Hi Luckyfish,

    The program themselves is not the problem. What they prevent, could be. I'm referring to spyware, which can slow down your system, and of course a virus can do horrible things we don't even want to think about.

    I was just checking to ensure that you knew about the freeware.

    Ramona :D
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Hi Ramona:

    Here's the good/bad news. The good news is that I have no viruses or new detected spyware...zip. The bad news is that my resources are low:

    System Resources: 29% free
    User Resources: 54% free
    GDI: 29% free

    I don't really get it. There's not much on my 98 OS?! Could uninstalling Netscape 4.7 and 6.2 resolve the problem? I've had Mozilla RC2 for about a month now. Really happy, so far, but crawling at a snail's pace lately!

    thanx for input! Luckyfish :)
     
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    Ramona

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    Hi Luckyfish,

    Good news indeed that you have no spyware, or dirty little viri residing on your system! ;)

    Your system resources should never get below 10-15%. Your system will surely crash if it does. Your problem is two fold, the way I see it.

    1. you have only 40 MB RAM
    2. you have an older, slower processor (so do lots of people)

    The slow down is caused by running a program designed for a newer, faster, processor, which on most systems would also include more RAM than 64 MB.

    Note that Netscape lists the requirements as minimal but in actuality Netscape 6 and 7, and Mozilla 1.0 RCx require the minimum, and more.

    Read these articles, if you are confused on resources and memory, as they are two separate issues. I believe you suffer from lack of both.

    http://www.forrestandassociates.co.uk/pcforrest/resources.html
    http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/resources1.html

    I hope I'm being clear, as it is apparent to me that you are trying to use a program geared for new fast processors, and your processor and RAM are simply not adequate.

    Try using Communicator for a few days, run your Resource Meter, and compare the two.

    Ramona :D
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Thank you, Ramona, for your suggestions. I'm going out of town for a few days, but will experiment when I return. I take it you suggest I'm better off sticking with 4.7, than 6.2 or Mozilla, huh? Will watch things closely when I return, then let you know. Thanx again!
    Luckyfish:)
     
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    Luckyfish:

    If you are able to upgrade your ram to at least 128mb you may be able to tolerate N7/Mozilla with a 300mhz processor. If that is not possible, you could try to run N7/Mozilla with as few programs running as possible, but there may be a lot of disk thrashing because of heavy swapfile usage, compounded by the fact that you only have 199mb of free space on your HD, before(?) installing N7 or Mozilla.



    tranquilo
     
  12. 2002/06/06
    bluesky

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    re: slow mozilla

    OK. Here is one trick to improve surfing speed of mozilla( from mozilla FAQs):

    " Go to Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking and check "˜Enable Pipelining’. This fetches everything on the page in a single connection, rather than one connection per item.

    It is switched off by default because some servers and proxies have problems with pipelining, but it tremendously improves browsing performance. "
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Hi Tranquilo:

    You said "you could try to run N7/Mozilla with as few programs running as possible, but there may be a lot of disk thrashing because of heavy swapfile usage, compounded by the fact that you only have 199mb of free space on your HD, before(?) installing N7 or Mozilla." Question, what do you mean running with as few programs as possible? Is that something I can permit, or are you talking about running a different version? BTW, I am NOT running N7, but rather Mozilla RC2...I thought it did better than N7. Thanx for input!

    also...Hi Bluesky! Thanx for tips on Preferences. I checked Enable Pipelining like you suggested. Enable Persistant Connections (the one above) is also checked. Is that correct? I haven't 'played' with it enough to know if it speeds things up, but will report back!

    Again, thanx for you assistance Tranquilo and Bluesky! Luckyfish:)
     
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    I meant to say that closing unnecessary programs would be good when running mozilla, along with not opening too many browser windows. Tabbed browsing may be an option for you, if you can become accustomed to it.

    The performance may be a bit slow, but its tolerable. Obviously if you could get a bit more ram (at least 64, 128 preferable, more than 128 best) and free up some hard drive space then this problem might disappear until you get another computer...lol

    Additionally, Mozilla 1.0 has been released for your browsing pleasure.
    http://www.mozilla.org/


    tranquilo
     
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    re: mozilla speed

    >Enable Persistant Connections (the one above) is also checked. Is that correct?

    It's correct. both checked. I tried it myself and it did speed up browsing signioficantly. No downside yet.;)
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Thanx Tranquilo! You said, "Tabbed browsing may be an option for you, if you can become accustomed to it. "

    Did you mean when all those new windows open up, or what? That is one thing I don't like about Mozilla..it is constantly opening up new windows when I click on something like sign on, look at account, etc.

    Is that Mozilla, or is that the particular site? Is 'tabbed browsing' what that is?

    Thanx again! Luckyfish:confused:
     
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    Luckyfish

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    Thanx Bluesky! I haven't noticed any benefit yet...but then haven't really been busy on computer! I will report back soon! Luckyfish:)
     
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    tranquilo

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    In Mozilla, edit/prefs/navigator/tabbed browsing OR rightclick on a link and select "open link in new tab ". You cannot miss the tabs, as they all open in the same Mozilla window. Pop up windows are something else, and you can disable them by going to edit/prefs/advanced/scripts & windows. Sometimes it is the site that has decided that you need additional windows to open.


    tranquilo
     
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    Luckyfish

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    thanx, Tranquillo! Sorry it took me so long to respond--I've been out of town, and for some reason, my e-mail didn't alert that I have a new posting??:confused:

    thanx again! Luckyfish:)
     
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