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seamonkey lost emails

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by deedee, 2009/12/29.

  1. 2009/12/29
    deedee

    deedee Inactive Thread Starter

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    I am using sea monkey early version 1.1, not sure if I had upgraded but my husband decided to fix my slow computer and deleted the Mozilla file. I could kill him, :mad:
    This action made me loose all my email and addresses for the last five years. After he restored they were gone. I had a habit of keeping old emails. I run a biz and it always gave me a frame of reference to go back and read . I lost some very important emails. I am afraid to ask, can I get them back? We already tried system restore.
     
  2. 2009/12/30
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    DeeDee, with good luck your mail is still there but, we need a little more info because I don't know exactly what your husband did or you mean by 2 things.

    1. You say he Deleted the Mozilla File. ---- I take it you mean a Mozilla FOLDER and not FILE but, which Mozilla ???? and how and where was this located.

    2. You say after he restored they were gone. But, what do you mean was this a Windows Restore or did you reinstall SeaMonkey.

    Removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey does not necessarily mean you lost your e-mails SeaMonkey.

    However, I have the feeling you did not remove SeaMonkey but, we need to know the location of this Mozilla gizmo he deleted and a more clearer understanding of what and where he deleted.

    We also need to know which version of Windows your using because that does make a difference in where files are located. Are you using Windows XP?

    If your using Windows XP and been using SeaMonkeys default settings your mail should have been in the path which looks something like the following:...... C:\Documents and Settings\USER NAME\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\7laj7ma7.default\Mail\YOUR E-MAIL

    What bothers me a little is, if you husband deleted the Mozilla FOLDER shown in the above path then your e-mail is probably gone.

    Regardless of who provides or helps you with this problem I/we will need the additional info I have asked for.

    1. Which version of Windows?
    2. Where was the Mozilla Gizmo he deleted located?
    3. Did you remove and reinstall SeaMonkey or just what?
    4. Are you using more then one SeaMonkey Profile.

    Answer these and we will be happy to offer some advice.

    Incidentally, A "Windows Restore" should not have bothered the SeaMonkey Files.

    Cheers, Ray
     

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    And, to make a long story short, Seamonkey, like its predecessors is made up of, basically, two parts. Part 1 is the program which should be located in the Program Files folder, and Part 2, the profile which can have any name, but most likely a mix of letters and numbers.default, if the newest version of Seamonkey is used, or in this path: C:\Documents and Setting\suser_name\Application Data\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\Profiles\a mix of letters.slt for versions 1.x. The xxxx.slt folder contains the mail folder,etc. The above is true for WinXP.
    More often than not, when something drastic is data, the connection between the Program and the Profile can go awire.
     
  5. 2009/12/31
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    mail mess up

    He told me he went into my files and just deleted mozilla, hit the file and delte. Then he saw it looked wrong when he re booted and did a system restore. When the browser was back up it has lost the last five years email addresses and also what I had in box prior to the deletion.

    thanks for any help!!:)
     
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    I have never done a System Restore, so I don't know if you can get back what had been deleted. I would think so. Anyway if he deleted the folder in the path: Application Data\mozilla.org\, you , probably, lost all the Profile data, which includes Mail, address book, and bookmarks. It would help if you could answer the questions asked by Old Chief.
     
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    Westside, I also never depend on System Restore for my backups and frankly neither do I know much about System Restore or what all it actually does.

    However, I have used it a lot of times when helping friends and it appears to me that it doesn't mess with personal data files or much of anything that are not a part of the Microsoft stuff or installed programs.

    In the case of SeaMonkey, I do think it will restore the program files providing they are installed in the default path but, will not mess with the Profile Data.

    Actually, I have drawn my conclusions about System Restore based on what I have read at:.......
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-is-System-Restore

    DeeDee, for us to help we need you to answer the questions ask in my first reply to your problem.

    It would also help to know if you are familiar with the program "Windows Explorer" and do you know how the hard drive is organized and what is called the tree and the path or path command. In other words, it would help us to know if you know how to find specific Files and Folders on your computer's hard drive.

    Also what is your current status. Are you now using SeaMonkey and sending and receiving new e-mails??

    If you think the System Restore messed things up, Keep in mind you can also undo a System Restore.

    Cheers, Ray
     
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    sorry holiday kept me so busy but ready to move onto the new year!!
    He delted the mozilla file right from my documents
    am running windows xp

    I did do a download and install to get it back, the system restore did not restore it.
    thanks
    PHP:
     
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    DeeDee, You still have not answered all the questions but, based on the answer you have now provided. I am going to make a big guess and tell you that your mail is still there and can be easily recovered depending on your knowledge and answering all of the questions.

    I think what happened is this. You were using an early version of SeaMonkey and now you have installed version 2.0

    Normally with a new install, a newer version of SeaMonkey will pick up the current profiles and all the mail. That is how it worked from SM version 1.0 to 1.1.18

    However, only a few months back SeaMonkey 2.0 came out and it operates on a new and different file system and when it is installed it does not pick up the current Profile or Mail from the previous versions of SeaMonkey.

    There are several ways to approach getting your mail back. One would be to go to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.18 and download SM-1.1.18 and install it.

    However, I suggest we first determine if my GUESS is correct or not.

    Please load SeaMonkey and click on HELP and ABOUT and tell us which version of SeaMonkey you are now using.

    If my guess is correct there are several approaches we can take to getting all your mail back and combined in with any new mail you have received.

    Which approach depends on your answers to the following questions.

    1. Which version of SeaMonkey did you install?
    2. Do you know how to use the program "Windows Explorer" and know how to find files and folders on the hard drive so you can CUT-COPY-PASTE files and folders here to there.
    3. How much new mail have you received or sent and how important it is for the new mail to be combined in with the old.
    4. You say you had 5 years of mail and I am curious if you had this all in the same folder or do you create different folders.
    5. It would help to know how many profiles you were using with the old SeaMonkey and the new.

    The better we understand your setup, the more easier we can determine the fix to your problem.

    WESTSIDE, I have a question for you - I never install my browsers under the C:\Programs Files -- I have both SM-1.1.18 and 2.0 installed but, selected my own Folders so I was unable to determine the default install path of SM-1.1.18 verses SM-2.0.

    My question for you in case we go the direction of installing SM-1.1.18 for DeeDee's old mail and keep SM-2.0 for her new mail does the default path allow you to install both version of SeaMonkey. In other words do they have a different default path and folders for installing.

    That might be easier then helping her combine her mail.

    DeeDee, if my hunch is correct I'm pretty sure your old mail is all still there and we can get it straightened out.

    How we do it depends on your answers and how knowledgeable you are of using Windows Explorer to CUT-COPY-PASTE.

    ByTheWay, I don't know of any reason for a Mozilla file to be in the My Documents Folder so are you sure that is where he deleted this Mozilla file or folder from.

    Nuff for now Please answer the questions and we can go from there.

    Ray
     
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  10. 2010/01/01
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    thanks Ray
    The mozilla was exactly in this location I believe , I asked again, although he is not sure I think it was here. C:/Documents and Settings\dede\Local Settings\Application Data

    I was running the older version originally and did reinstall the new 2. version then went back and reinstalled the 1.1.9 version which is what I am currently running.

    Yes I do also have and know windows explorer and I also use it. And cut and paste. I have been collecting addresses again which is what I lost to begin with, that I could just save, as for email there might be a few I would need not many since this happened so recently, but I could save all in files before I do something.

    I had years ago used netscape communicator but it got so obsolete so that when I found seamonky to use. I have always only used one profile . I still have that program 7.0, 7.1, 7.2 on my computer to use. I tried to load it and its in use me using this so I assume I could load it with my only profile name I use I just never loved Microsoft. I also like to use the sea monkey to write web pages it makes it a snap.
    thanks, Diane
     
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    Thanks Diana for the full explanation of what occurred and your current status.

    As my first response indicated and Westside also advised, Your mail should have been located in a path similar to the following:................
    C:\Documents and Settings\USER NAME\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\7laj7ma7.default\Mail\YOUR E-MAIL

    Which you now indicate was the one your husband deleted and if that is the case then as my first post also indicated I am afraid your mail is lost along with the address books and bookmark file.

    Sorry, but, that is all I know to tell you now that we know the full story and where the Mozilla deletion occurred. But, it was gone regardless of any efforts you made and once the hard drive was written too after the deletion no average means are available to recover it.

    I am sitting here, wondering if you use any kind of device to back your data up as I believe one of the best investments a computer user can now make is to purchase one of these small cigarette size external hard drives that runs from a USB port and requires no 110 volt power and rather then use a normal back up program, use the software called "Second Copy" as it does exactly that makes a copy which you can go retrieve using Windows Explorer.

    Western Digital and Seagate both make these small external hard drives and they come in different gig sizes.

    I gave my oldest daughter a 320 Gig Western Digital one for Christmas which cost $60.00 on sale at Staples or Walmart and Second Copy is $29.95 on the internet.

    If it will make you feel better my oldest daughter also lost all her stuff very recently due to her son deleting everything but, now my Christmas present fixed that for her.

    All her mail and data files now get backed up automatically every 8 hours as mine does and your never know it is being done because Second Copy does it.

    Second copy uses different setups to copy 1 file or 1 folder or any and all of them and does each at different times according to how you want it. Other then the OS I consider Second Copy the most important software on my computer.

    We leave our computers turned on but, if a user turns their's off, Second Copy can be set to copy everything from 1 to 60 minutes after each boot up.

    Again, Sorry we can't help you recover your e-mail but, at least we have now suggested how you may prevent it ever being lost again.

    My 2 Cents, Ray
     
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  12. 2010/01/20
    deedee

    deedee Inactive Thread Starter

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    sorry I was missing, I lost my way :) sort of forgot where this was and also forgot my password, LOL. thanks for all the help, I just wanted to let those who helped , a hearty thankyou.
     

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