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Running two Actively Monitoring Antimals?

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    Jilly

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    Hi,

    I am new here and am posting my one little confusion/issue.....tho for me, every miniscule thing matters with my puters:

    Is there any downside to running two, actively monitoring antimals at the same time, both starting with XP? In this case, Superantispyware (lifetime license) and Malwarebytes (lifetime license)?

    Is it redundant and stupid, a needless resource drain. or does both running---and with Superantispy real time protection endabled-- preclude more mals from coming in versus just Malwarebytes running alone?

    I might add, my current firewall is Comodo, my current antivirus is Avira free version. I test all my apps ongoing and check out changing reviews, detection rates, engines, datbases for each new build etc. So, the above are my current choices, it changes as the apps do.

    This is NOT AN EMERGENCY; this system is clean, and I am determined to keep it that way :)

    Many thanks! (Is Santa running W7 yet?;))
    Jilly
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't run both of them. It's not as crucial as having two AV programs running, but some conflict may occur.
     
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    Jilly

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    Hi, Broni, and thanks!

    That was my instinct as well, so I disabled real time protection in Superantispy, which is an option they offer. But I want all the data just in case I am being paranoid.

    OK to be paranoid about malware per se, but not so much ANTIMALWARES. lol

    Logically, I would think if their databases and engines are almost identical, then there would be no point. But if they are not, there might be a point absent other conflicts as you mention, which, frankly, I am not picking up, but I could be missing something.

    My take is Malwarebytes, the current build, is the superior app of these two..

    Thanks again!
     
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    Good decision and you're right, often one will find, what the other misses.
    You can always run Super manually.
     
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    Indeed. but I run many scans manually, often simultaneously, before I shut any system down. Again, in this, my issue is determining any downside to running two with real time protection.

    Disabling real time protection in Superantispy, if there really is any downside to letting them both run actively, would also mean removing it from my start menu, cause then, what would be the point of letting it load with Windows?

    Thanks again, Broni!
     
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    This is not a good idea, either.

    Absolutely.
     
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    Hi again,

    Why not re running scans simultaneously? Unless it's Comodo reg cleaner, tho I am afraid to post I run that altogether, cause I don wanna be hit with a golf club, lol, but I do, and have never had a problem with it. (I also use the former JK Defrag, now Mydefrag, cleaner module to optimize my registry hives, I am, OK, a little nuts.)

    As example, I run a malware scan, a junkfiles scan and mydefrag, a la fois. Is this not one reason I chose a dual core chip? lol Never had a problem, I do it all the time; no single scan appears compromised and W Task Mgr indicates the system is barely breaking a sweat. Saves time, time is finite, right?

    Theoretical is excellent, but for me, empirical must augment that as the real litmus test, esp in troubleshooting any issue, software or hardware related.

    Again, when I was running both apps with real time monitoring, I experienced no obvious problems, but I want to know everything, esp was that stupid and redundant or viable, and there is always more to learn!!
     
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    It's not like something bad MUST happen, or will happen every time, you do the above, but there is a good chance, that one day, one of those programs will get confused, or step on another process and something bad will happen.
    Simple example...
    Let's say, you have infected file and you're running MBAM and defrag at the same time.
    At this very moment defrag is moving chunks of infected file around to put it together in one place. MBAM gets confused, because it doesn't see a whole file, so it marks it as OK file and goes on. In meantime, defrag puts the file together. It's still malicious file, but at this moment MBAM is already further ahead and doesn't see bad file.
    I hope, it makes sense.
     
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    Now that.....was a good point!!!! Re Mydefrag unwittingly moving infected files around! Thanks for that! I just learned something!

    Cept I'm still gonna run the other scans simultaneously. lol
     
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    Stubborn?...LOL
     
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    Jilly

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    I gotta be, I am size 2.:eek:

    But seriously, I think we are all here to share data, explore each element and arrive at more and more accute truths.

    And I LUV 3 interfaces open on the desktop, all scanning at warpspeed. Mainly cause for once, I do not get speeding tickets.;)

    But now, Mydefrag will not be among them!:)
     
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    broni

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    Well, if you like living on the edge...I can't help it...hehehe
     
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    Jilly

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    Believe it or not that really is one of my versions of just that!

    And, when Santa brings me the i7 Ultimate chip (tho I doubt before Global Warming gets all of us), I will run every single scan there is on earth.... simultaneously!;)

    Way safer than skydiving.:cool:

    But if one monitors scans and scan results run both singly and in concert with others, you learn stuff. Sometimes, there is a method to my madness. But not always, lol and I have learned the most from when there isn't.:eek:.

    But re the original issue, software conflicts in Windows usually make themselves known, and when I was loading both antimal apps with real time protection, I saw no problem, but was still unclear, and i still am.. Which is why I posted, arcane as it still may be.

    ____________________________________________
    Addendum:

    I still wanna know proven specifics, so I just mailed Customer Support at Superantispy my initial question. I do have the paid version, so I felt entitled. And I did identify the other app in the email. I will paste their response when it arrives so we can all learn more.
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    Monday update:

    I am, OK, addicted to speed, and I need to be patient. While I received the ticket submitted auto-generated email confirmation immediately, I have yet to receive an actual response from the Superantispy pundits. Of course I did cheat on their software by hooking up with Another, while still involved with them. Tho monogamy is never indigenous in software. :p
     
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    Jilly

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    Bravo, Broni!!!!!

    Ahah! 3 seconds after I posted above i had not gotten a response, one came in....and broni, for a Californian, you are WAAAY SMART!;) And I am way more lame in this arena than the expertise I overestimated after always fixing everyone's messed up systems!! It was kinda pseudo and I am humbled.

    I am now pasting....will try to remove the personal data:

    Hi,

    I just posted this question on a tech site I joined, but nobody gave a definitive answer: is there any downside to my running Superantispy with the active protection enabled and another antimal also with active protection at the same time?

    Not to be insulted, I like yr product, but I just bought a license for Malwarebytes and it too has active protection.

    I will look forward to your answer and also post it on the tech site to educate others.

    Jill


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    SUPERAntiSpyware.com Replied:

    Jill,

    Most people don't have any issues, but sometimes certain software's real-time protection conflicts with others and that's why people use one as an on demand scanner and the other as a active real-time protection.

    Regards,

    SUPERAntiSpyware.com Customer Service

    See that? Wasn't broni did not give definitive answer, he was just being elegant and kind by not saying, "Jilly, you deluded Be-atch. ";):)

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    Now how do I mark this resolved? Do I need to remove the heatsink to get to it?:cool
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    Never mind, I found it, the resolved thingy in the drop down menu!!!! Din have to remove the heatsink at all. lol
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    OK wait. Site said I marked it resolved, but that does not appear. I am confused. Is this a SOFTWARE CONFLICT? lol
     
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    There you have it :)
     
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    Jilly

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    Indeed! Did you get the Ferrari I sent you for being so savvy?;)

    Why I feel guilty I fell in love with the malwarebytes after testing it and feel I betrayed Superantispy.....is a little pathetic. But I do feel guilty.:(

    That must be why, while I marked this thing resolved, the site confirmed, it does not appear. ;)
     
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    Not yet, but it better.....LOL
     
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    Jilly

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    It WILL! The minute the Pope gets married. But it's the THOUGHT that counts! And the thought was heartfelt. :D

    Now I need to recover from the guilt of just earlier, having removed the Superanti from my start menu. I am sometimes a sick little puppy.:eek:

    Relatedly, my usual go to drive---the one I usually boot into in this system, is named "hamster" and my other HDD is named "piggy. "

    WD does not get HDDs have little personalities and are happier when you get that. CPUs do as well. but not ram sticks, they are totally inanimate.;)
    I am only half kidding. Now, I must take my meds. lol

    I am happy that at least I was not one of the unwittingly reckless multitaskers running both apps who had a problem.

    I have been here for 11 minutes and I am stunned by how much I have learned already.

    Tho I am still running 3 scans at a time (not defrag). If Homeland Security gets me, so be it.:D

    But I ain't goin unless they send Vincent Donofrio.:)

    Thanks for all your help, broni!!!!!
     
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