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Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Goaglen, 2024/10/23.

  1. 2024/10/23
    Goaglen Contributing Member

    Goaglen Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    OS hacked or broken. Went downhill over weeks. Became so slow it was inoperable, but functional.
    Computer tech removed many programs. All AV & adware. Left MS defense onboard. Unacceptable.
    I reloaded Comodo Internet Security with great pain. Want to reinstall W10 without clean boot.
    Too many system ID's, parameters, on MS menu.
    Which one do I use?

    Windows 10 Home 64 bit
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz 2.33 GHz
    Device ID: C9108B41-7F89-4524-BDAC-C466771DAEC
    Product ID: 00326-10000-00000-AA348
    OS Build: 19045.5073

    Dell is old but perfectly fine for speed, memory, operation.
     
  2. 2024/10/24
    rsinfo

    rsinfo SuperGeek Alumni

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    If your computer is gone so far down, it makes sense to backup your files and do a full fresh install. Don't reinstall over all that **** as you would be back to square one in no time.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I agree. I typically advise against total (fresh/clean) re-install of Windows, except as a last resort effort. But with all that has happened, it seems last resort is where you are. So IMO, backup, format and reinstall is probably your best bet.

    Note you are in error to assume Windows Security is "unacceptable". Contrary to what many MS bashers want us to believe, it is more than capable of protecting our systems AS LONG AS we keep it and our OS current and we avoid being "click-happy" on unsolicited links - the EXACT SAME precautions we must take regardless our security solution of choice.

    Not only is it effective, it does not hog system resources or bog down performance either. At the very least, I would urge you to stick with Windows Security until AFTER you have reinstalled and configured Windows, installed and setup all your applications, and see how your computer is performing.

    I am not saying Comodo is bad. I am saying Windows Security is not either.
     
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    Goaglen Contributing Member

    Goaglen Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    RSInfo,
    Good advice. Done both over four decades of PC ownership. The week to reinstall software is too expensive and still back to hacked later.
     
  6. 2024/10/24
    Goaglen Contributing Member

    Goaglen Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Bill:
    The statement "inadequate" was more political/social than technical. Any Democrat today is inadequate at the least. Gates is.
    I reserve the right to my opinion, which cannot be "in error." The same as yours to defend it. Leadership is key to the survival of anything. Once misdirected, it strives toward error. Products available to the whole world headed toward unserviceable (& unpopular) territory are unacceptable.
    As far as demanding to much from the system, I have received more popups from Windows.
    Windows Security is onboard. One has to go deep to stop it. Now, so is Comodo.
    But I will take the advice of Even Omo and Arie Slob before amateurs. ("in error" & "****")
    How to repair Windows 10
    PC owner 40 years; wrote code on mainframe 45 years ago.
     
  7. 2024/10/25
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    You said "unacceptable". Not the same thing as "inadequate".

    What does Bill Gates have to do with the price of rice in China in the summertime when it rains? Nothing. Just like he has nothing to do with Microsoft anymore, nor do your political biased comments belong here. As a "Well-Known and "Contributing" member, you should know better.

    Nonsense. Of course opinions can be in error - it happens when they are based on falsehoods, which, as worded, yours is.

    If you simply have an aversion to anything Microsoft - as your clearly biased comments about Bill Gates and Defender suggest - then yes, you are entitled to your biased opinion. But from a technical aspect, to say Defender is unacceptable is simply wrong. It is a very capable anti-malware solution, as non-amateurs and anyone who does their research would know.

    As to suggesting one may be an amateur, well, (1) receiving more popups is NOT, in any way, an indication of an inferior product or performance, again, as any non-amateur would readily know. And (2), if you were referring to me, you can follow the link in my sig, then decide for yourself if I might have a bit of knowledge on the subject. Oh, and BTW, did you notice Evan kindly gave me some credit in his "How to repair Windows 10" tutorial too? Not bad for an amateur, huh? LOL

    Edit comment - fixed a couple typos
     
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  8. 2024/10/25
    Goaglen Contributing Member

    Goaglen Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Very well. I ruffled some feathers.
    Corporate practice is to hire according to founder's preferences. These preferences continue for decades after leadership changes, as the cadre of management has been established. Corporate culture is, for the most part, permanent.
    Some MS history: Word was a useless POS until he stole code (directly or reverse engineered I suspect) from COREL WordPerfect, the word processing standard then and today. WP was the official language of the legal world. Word was inadequate.
    Lotus 123 was the basis for the numbers program. Simple enough to "borrow" until formulas are needed for business and higher mathematical calculations.
    Code writers back then could not write a letter to Momma, much less deal with regular English or proper high level language. As for business use of Excel, that had to come from somewhere else too. A regression analysis was not in the bailiwick of Excel without importing formulae.
    The invention of language based on + & - was ingenious, tedious, and necessary with the binary electronic world of today. It's weakness? Dependence on continuous and dependable electricity and the cleanliness of the pipeline and storage device.
    What I know is business, politics, and people.
    Your lecture has one basic flaw. An opinion is that and only that. A fact is the same way. When someone has an opinion, that is theirs. You can throw all the "facts" you want at it, and it is not required to change.
    That is the same with a political view, stance, opinion. Now, the difference between true and false, another binary choice, is usually based on facts. Except, as Plato explained, there are truths and not truths. Most basic ones are self evident.
    Thank you for the healthy debate.

    An opinion can be in error for one and not for the other. For example:
    "Kamala is the most fit to be president and leader of the free world."
    That is an opinion which will have earth shattering consequences very soon, if, IF most voting Americans show up at the polls and choose her. The opinion will produce a fact which will impact hundreds of millions of people. That too is a fact. On a psychological or spiritual or social level, the assumption is debatable. In that debate, facts and evidence should be considered, weighed, and yield a meaningful result, without cheating. Cheating can influence the result of the vote with no necessity to depend on facts. But in that instance, truth has been violated. The resulting vote will be fact, regardless of the truth.
    Fact then becomes an obvious result without truth. All based on opinion. That is a truth.
    Congratulations on your professional achievements.
     
  9. 2024/10/25
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    My suggestion would be for you to ditch WINDOWS and get a different OS. You asked for advice and didn't like to hear what was said. That is MY OPINION. And yes, I know what opinions are like. I am probably one of them myself.
     
  10. 2024/10/27
    Admin.

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    Please stay on topic of the technical discussions and leave politics out of this forum.

    I get it, the US is going banana's at the moment, but this stuff has no place here (if u wanne know, no, I'm not US based, so I don't care much).

    Thanks.
     
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    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Goaglen,

    This is not the place for political discussion in a thread asking for advice regarding your Windows installation.

    Bill already answered your question. Back up your data, perform a clean install of Windows 10 and if you don't like using Windows Defender because you think its inadequate in your opinion then install a 3rd party antivirus solution instead and leave it at that.

    Getting into long rambling arguments about Bill Gates and hating Microsoft because of political beliefs is completely irrelevant to this thread.

    If there is any more political bashing then I will lock this thread.
     

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