Removing the rubbish Java by Sun Microsystems

Any ideas how? It makes my applets run really slow, and crashes them since Ive installed them.

It isnt in add/remove programs and Im not sure which one it is in Internet Options -> Objects.

Thanx in advance.

 

This piece of software trash has also caused me no end of trouble. Not only do they not understand the concept of updating (they just install version after version next to each other), but it causes menus to flicker, and games not to work that have nothing whatever to do with Java.

Hopefully, they will learn the basics of writing software before we are at their mercy in the Java world---or Java will not be used by very many people and replaced by something else.

Now the problem---look in Program Files, Java or JavaSoft and see what version(s) you have. They should appear in Add/Remove. If they don't try reinstalling them and then uninstalling from Add/Remove.

Due to all the registry changes, you can't just delete the folder, even though I'm sure you are tempted

 

Updates are installed to current versions, like IE cumulative updates. Software UPGRADES are newer versions. Sometimes you install over the top and the new, "upgraded" version replaces the old (like with my IE3.02 to IE 5.5 upgrade) Other times you can install an upgraded version alongside the old version, in a different folder, and both versions will still be operable. Mozilla browsers are like that.

Usually I check the installation instructions whenever installing a software upgraded version , to see if it's recommended to uninstall earlier versions... I didn't see that on Sun's Java installation notes ....I think software that installs to a new folder leaving the original intact should mention that somewhere in the installation notes or in the setup routine but I don't think that it should automatically uninstall earlier versions (some people may want older versions to remain installed for testing, or whatever)

Geordie,

You don't necessarily need to uninstall Sun's Java. You can disable Sun's Java in Internet Options, Advanced tab, by UNCHECKING the box under Java (Sun) that says something like, "use Java 2 v 1.4.x_0x for <applet> (requires restart}" if it's there. Another way to disable Sun's Java in Internet Explorer is to open the Java Plugin applet in Control Panel and find the option in the browser or Advanced tab that lets you UNcheck Internet Explorer. That should return you to using the Microsoft Virtual Machiine.

 

For good or bad, some sites I go to need the older Sun version and some need the new, so I guess it's a good thing I have both.

But your suggestion about disabling them is a good one---they will be there if needed without causing problems with other programs.

Sun's Java can be disabled in the Control Panel as well. There you can choose which version, if any, you want to use in your browsers.

 

I finally sorted it. Seen the 'Java Plug In' section in the control panel where I just unticked it not to run in IE.

Have to say that thats the worst piece of software Ive ever downloaded in my life and I will never download it again.

 

To hello you can't !! If you have good reg cleaner on hand you can. If it won't delete it means it is being used.

But before you do anything make sure you have a recent Reg backup ( RB00X.CAB in 98 ) or recent Restore point in XP. And know how to use either.

Just delete the folder and then use a reg cleaner and regscrubXP to clean up the leftovers.

I myself also throw Norton Windoctor in first to get the main items. Then use the other two

I had to do that in XP yesterday to get a new GOOD clean re-install of Sun Java.

If you have several installs the poor system just does not know which one to use. And if one is in use a new install mayl not overwrite properly.

Clean them all out and start fresh.

Not according to what I read yesterday. If I read correctly MS is dropping the Sun Java that they pirated.

BillyBob

 

Registry Cleaners may or may not remove entries for installed programs. It is certainly not to be recommended that folders be deleted and reg cleaners used in preference to normal uninstall procedures.

 

My reply was in a direct answer to this.

I say yes you can.

I agree that it not a recommended as a normal procedure.

But there are times when it does need to be done.

If several installs ( or install attempts ) have been made the Uninstall will more than likely remove only one. And any reg cleaner may not get all entires which may make it look like the program is still installed.

That is why I had to do a lot of MANUAL removal to get Sun Java back in CORRECTLY. There were three previous installs and the new would not go in correctly.

This is ( or at least was ) a BIG problems with Norton Software. A little MANUAL works is ( or was ) required to get rid of it ALL.

And there are cases where a bad/incomplete install does not even show up in add/remove. That is when the user has to take the bull by the horns and use alternative methods. System restore works great here.

And some un-installs do not remove the program folder. And if even the folder exists a Reg cleaner may not remove all entires.

In other words when Windows s.c.r.e.w.s. up we need to take alternative methods,

And it DOES WORK in XP Pro as I have DELIBERATELY and PURPOSELY done it just to see if XP was going to fight me. It did not.

Windows and most software do a fairly decent job with things. But there are times that the USER has to step in when Windows don't do it.

I do not give a hoot how good Mr. Gates and Company claim Windows is supposed to be. In SOME cases it WILL NOT do it all. And in these cases the USER needs to know how to take over.

BillyBob