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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by weismer, 2003/01/20.

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  1. 2003/01/20
    weismer

    weismer Inactive Thread Starter

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    I've installed the recovery console from the XP cd, and get a message box saying the install was successfull, however, when I boot up and select the Recovery Console, the system stops with an error that KBDUS.DLL could not be loaded. The file does exist in the cmdcons directory. I uninstalled and reinstalled the console with the same result. Any ideas here?:confused:
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  2. 2003/01/20
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    Hi weismer
    I've been doing a search for your problem, but both KB articles I found, have to do with 2000? Here and here?

    Daizy
     

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    weismer

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    Thanks for the quick reply. I've checked the 2 sites and am not sure if the info applies here. The setup ran with no errors. The problem arises when I actually try and use the console. I am the sole user of this XP-Pro installation, so I believe that I've installed it with full permissions. In case it's noteworthy, the drive is formatted NTFS and has GoBack3 resident on the drive, which seems to preclude running the console from the CD. (and hopefully negating its need, as well)
     
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    I have the exact same problem with the Recovery Console. I also have GoBack 3 installed and an NTFS file system. BTW there is an option in GoBack to "Boot from Floppy or CD-ROM" in the 'Press spacebar to repair problems" when GoBack first begins to load. Just press the spacebar and choose your option.
     
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    I know for a fact, you cannot run the Recovery Console without first disabling GoBack since GB imposes an offset to the FAT that the Recovery Console can't deal with. Forget the Recovery Console, it's a kluge at best. Use Goback for your immediate needs and consider getting Drive Image for your long term, other media, backups.

    :)
     
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  8. 2003/01/24
    Zephyr

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    Also please see this earlier thread. It may make you rethink how you are doing things and how important the Recovery Console really is.

    :)
     
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    Thanks for your help on the Recovery Console, I have searched everywhere with no luck until now. BTW there is an update to GoBack at the Roxio web site.

    david
     
  10. 2003/01/24
    Zephyr

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    OK dlhan I have that update already but I didn't notice that it did anything except jack me around. The functionality seems to be the same. I had to reprove myself by inserting the original cd disk and provide the key code. I think that's a bit much.

    Here are two things I have learned about GoBack that may help you:

    If you have XP installed under the NTFS file system, consider converting to FAT32, you'll easily quadruple the history reach. I did the conversion using Partition Magic but other programs do that as well.

    If you have a second physical drive, move the TIF's there to reduce boot drive activity that GoBack must track and thereby increase the history reach.

    Best regards.
     
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    weismer

    weismer Inactive Thread Starter

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    Zephr. Do you think that the benefits of the NTFS as far as stability, etc, do not outweigh reverting to FAT32 and getting a longer goback history? I'm beginning to rethink the benefits of using NTFS rather than FAT32.

    Also??? Any idea where to turn off hybernation. I don't need that od the hyberfil.sys that it creates

    Any speculation as to what bugs have been addressed by Roxio in their (sic) Update?

    Thanks
     
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    In Windows XP Pro. Go to Start, Control Panel, Power Options. Select the Hibernate tab and clear the selection box.
     
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    Zephyr

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    weismer As far as I'm concerned, I'd much rather have the extended GoBack history as opposed to having any of the benefits that NTFS offers. I have never regretted converting to FAT32. I am fully aware of what I have given up in doing so and I say, "Good riddance." I don't need to protect my privacy nor do I care about any lost drive space due to cluster sizes. The convenience of being able to see and manipulate the files from a DOS boot disk is also appreciated.

    I have no clue as to what Roxio may have improved or added in their so called "Update." I can only suppose that if it was something great, they would be touting it so it's probably not anything important. Maybe it's to fix some bug that they don't want to admit it had. :)
     
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    I think I'll be investigating FAT32 converters in the short term.

    Also, on the goback menu, I've never seen the option to boot from CD, even though it is supported by the BIOS (MS-6373 MSI)

    and thanks for the hibernation location
     
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    You are correct, you won't see the "Boot from CD" option on the GoBack boot menu. It's necessary to disable GoBack in order to boot from a CD directly.

    btw, I used Partition Magic 8 to convert my NTFS to FAT32. It worked without a hitch.

    :)
     
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    I have GoBack version 3.21.106. It has an option to "Boot Floppy/CD ". With the explanation "Boot from Floppy or CD-ROM with GoBack drivers installed ". I guess you mean if GoBack's drivers are installed I still will not be able to boot into Recovery Console. Is this correct?
     
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    weismer

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    I could have "sweared" I read somewhere that if BIOS supported it, the option would appear on boot up to use floppy or CD. Well... perhaps it's the years of drug abstinance. lol
     
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    Zephyr

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    It's news to me so i just rebooted and checked my options. I am only offered to boot from Floppy, no mention of CD. (I also have GoBack version 3.21.106.)

    Then I looked in the GoBack help files and voila, it says:

    Booting from a CD

    Booting from a bootable CD via GoBack is available only on systems that support industry-standard CD booting. If, when you access the GoBack Boot Menu, you see the Boot from Floppy button and not Boot from Floppy/CD, your system does not support this standard and you will not be able to boot from a bootable CD with the GoBack drivers loaded.
    If the Boot from Floppy/CD option appears, follow the steps below to boot from a CD:

    1. Ensure that your computer’s boot order (in your system’s BIOS setup utility) is set to boot to hard disk before the CD. For information about how to do this, see your computer’s system documentation. This will ensure that GoBack loads from the hard disk so you have access to the GoBack Boot Menu.

    2. Insert your bootable CD into the drive.

    3. Boot the computer then press the SPACEBAR when the GoBack Boot Screen appears. (If the GoBack Boot Screen does not appear, verify the boot order setting in your computer’s BIOS setup utility).

    4. From the GoBack Boot Menu, click Boot to Floppy/CD. The computer will now boot from the CD and you can access your GoBack-protected drives.

    My bios will allow booting to the CD, I've used it many times, so I'm left wondering why GoBack hasn't offered that option like it should. :confused: I guess all bios aren't equal even though they will boot to the CD. Me, I always get something like that, a born loser. :) I really don't need that anyway. <He said as he walked away sulking>

    :)
     
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    weismer

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    by my logic, if the goback drivers are enabled, you should be able to do what ever you like, as long as you aren't effing with the MBR

    Now, Partition Manager 8: is it demo ware? shareware? can I use it once for free? (strictly for evaluation purposes)
    or would I be better off with a clean install?
     
  20. 2003/01/25
    weismer

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    Well at least now I don't feel like I;'m friggin' nuts. I've played with every variation of boot order, and nada! zip! nunca! Dreck!
     
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    Zephyr

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    I meant to type PARTITION MAGIC 8 so forgive me for any confusion that caused. I have edited it in the other post. It's made by Power Quest so visit their site and see if a free trial is available. Personally, if it isn't, I'd buy it before I'd go to the trouble of a clean install. :)
     
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