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Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by quackbal, 2003/07/31.

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  1. 2003/07/31
    quackbal

    quackbal Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hello,

    I have recently rerun an old computer which I loaded NT 4 Workstation onto.

    I want to get it linked with my 2k/XP machines (workgroup).

    I've loaded the drivers for my network card, it recognizes that correctly, and now it's able to 'start' the network, and it can see the workgroup but no computers inside it! Not even itself!

    All the IPs are correct, etc, but one thing I'm suspicious of is the 'Server' service; Everytime I try to run it I get a 'not enough storage available' error, I'm wondering if this is to do with it?

    Help would be *VERY* appreciated!!
     
  2. 2003/08/01
    Bitbyter

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    The only computers that will show in the network browser window will be those offering services to the network.

    You need to turn on File and Print Services for your other computers. Yes, on NT, the server service must run for this.
     

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  4. 2003/08/02
    quackbal

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    The file & print services are running; and so is the server service on Windows NT, now.

    I still have on idea why it doesn't see the computers
     
  5. 2003/08/03
    Bitbyter

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    Do you have the service packs applied to WNT?
     
  6. 2003/08/03
    quackbal

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    No; when I applied service pack 6, I got many spooler error messages and the 'server' service did not initialize.
     
  7. 2003/08/04
    Bitbyter

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    Shouldn't apply SP6 -- use SP6a.
     
  8. 2003/08/04
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    In addition to the items already mentioned, you'll need to make sure each PC requires a logon with a username and non-blank password. If you use the exact same logon for each, you'll save a little work. Otherwise, add each user ID and password to every PC.

    Also, for a PC to show up in Network Neighborhood, the PC will need to be sharing either a folder or a printer.

    You didn't mention if you are sure the PCs can "see" each other but easy enough to find out. Assuming you have PC1 running 2K and PC2 running NT, from 2K do:

    start~run~cmd and then
    ping PC2 and if you get a return, you should be set to go. If you don't, networking isn't set up properly and it won't work until whatever problem is corrected.

    Moving this thread to the networking section.
     
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  9. 2003/08/04
    quackbal

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    Ok...

    I've upgraded to SP6a...


    I have 4 computers.


    One is the gateway ('BEDROOM1'), on XP Professional, hosting the internet and printers.

    Then there is the NT4 machine ('BEDROOM2'), which is supposed to be in a net with all the other machines. A WORKGROUP.


    Then there is another XP Pro machine and a 2k Pro machine.

    From all other machines, the hostname of the NT4 machine cannot be found.

    I have no idea why this is; everything is setup, they all share files/printers...

    Dunno what to do! :confused:
     
  10. 2003/08/05
    Bitbyter

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    Forget Network Neighborhood for awhile...

    Can you ping the NT machine from the other machines?
    Can you ping the other machines from the NT machine?

    If no, then fix network configuration.

    If yes, then open network neighborhood, and in the address bar, enter \\NTServerName where "NTServerName" is the NetBIOS computer name of the NT system.

    If you have established a share on the NT system, you should be able to see the share after accessing from the address bar. If you have authentication set up correctly, you should be able to access the share.

    If that was successful, then you have a browser problem or latency. Wait an hour. See if the NT machine shows up in Network Neighborhood then.
     
  11. 2003/08/05
    quackbal

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    Like I said, I cannot ping any of the other machines from the NT workstation. Everything in the network control panel is setup as I setup my other machines.

    :(
     
  12. 2003/08/05
    Newt

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    Please do the following and post the contents of both the text files you'll create here. Identify which PC produced which information and please don't mask any of the numbers or names. Do one from the NT machine and one from any other that is working properly.

    start~run~cmd
    ipconfig /all > c:\ipconfig.txt (there is a single space before and after the >)
     
  13. 2003/08/05
    quackbal

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    This is an XP Pro machines ipconfig:



    Windows IP Configuration



    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bedroom4

    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mshome.net

    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Compatable Fast Ethernet Adapter

    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-76-18-DB-50

    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.85

    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 06 August 2003 00:45:32

    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 13 August 2003 00:45:32











    This is the NT machines ipconfig:



    Hostname: saturn
    DNS Servers: 194.168.4.100
    194.168.8.100


    Node type: Broadcast

    NetBIOS scope id:

    IP routing enabled: no
    WINS proxy enabled: no
    NetBIOS resolution uses DNS: no


    Ethernet adapter ETHER1:


    Desc: ethernet isa adapter, v 2.50.4
    Physical address: 00-40-05-51-03-5B
    DHCP enabled: no
    IP: 192.168.0.1
    Subnet: 255.255.255.0
    Gateway: 192.168.0.1



    (This was not pasted as the NT machine isn't on the internet; but it is copied exactly)
     
  14. 2003/08/06
    Bitbyter

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    Unless your NT machine is the gateway (it is not), change the IP address of the NT machine to be 192.168.0.86.

    The IP address of the NT machine is in conflict with the gateway address.

    And it appears that the other machine is using the gateway address for DNS request forwarding as well. So change the NT DNS servers to be what is used for the other working machine, viz., 192.168.0.1
     
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  15. 2003/08/20
    quackbal

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    Update --


    The IP in the ipconfig.txt is now correct.. as is the gateway.

    I'm not sure what to do with the DNS servers though.
    It still detects no other computers on my network.
     
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