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Pentium D 925 versus Core 2 Duo E6700

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Christer, 2007/06/06.

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    A friend has asked me to build a decent computer for him. Right now, it seems like Intel brings the most bang for the bucks. The pricing is a bit confusing, though.

    Pentium D 925, BX80553925, 3.0 GHz, 2x2 MB cache, 800 MHz FSB is priced at SEK 995 (~$140).

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6700, BX80557E6700, 2.66 GHz, 4 MB cache, 1066 MHz FSB is priced at SEK 3 295 (~$470).

    I have noted different cache (2x2 MB versus 4 MB), different FSB (800 MHz versus 1066 MHz), Thermal Design Power 95 W for the D 925 - 65 W for the E6700 and THE PRICE.

    Give me a few reasons to go for the Core 2 Duo!

    Thanks for your time,
    Christer
     
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    It depends what the computer is for. If it's for gaming then you want a C2D. You can ignore the clock speed as it's no longer relevant (when comparing a C2D with an older CPU).

    The sweet spot at the moment is the E6600. What's the price on that? You can do some comparisons of various CPUs here.
     

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    The computer is not for gaming. It will be used for Office applications, Photoshop and possibly video editing.

    I too have found out that the sweet spot for C2D is the E6600, priced at SEK 2 295 (~$330). Still not as sweet as the D 925, though.

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    Hi Christer
    AFAIK dual core is better here - depending on the program used I guess. My reason for saying that is that I use ProShow Gold from time to time to produce slide shows and while processing shows it flags up 'Using 2 processors' - I would imagine video editing would be similar in rendering.
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hi Pete!

    Both processors are dual core. I checked the link provided by peterdiva and it seems like the E6600 is 50 % faster (an average of sampled "non-gaming" tests) than the D 930 (the D 925 was not among the listed CPU's). In PhotoSop CS, it is 60-70 % faster. In Pinnacle, it is 30 % faster.

    The E6600 is less bang for the bucks but it seems like basing a new system on the D 925 really is building an "oldish" system.

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    I missed that - being an AMD man :) At least AMD designate their dual cores with x2 so there is never a doubt!
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I too am an AMD man (my own BOAC) and I have built more BOAC's for friends based on AMD than on Intel. The latest was a year ago and it was based on an single core Athlon. Now, it seems like Intel has taken the lead, I think, even when bang for the bucks is considered.

    Sorry to be the bearer of "bad news" ... :p ... but the most recent Athlon FX processors are dual core!

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    Well I never :eek:
     
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    If I were considering an Intel chip, I'd probably go for either the E6320 ($165) or the E6420 ($186) as they have double the cache of their "standard" counterparts, the E6300 and the E6400.
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    A follow-up question:

    The E6600 has a 1066 MHz FSB. The motherboard Asus P5B-Plus VISTA supports 1066/800/533 MHz. It supports DDR2 800/667/533 MHz. This is where I loose it! Does it mean that DDR2/533 is what it can handle to its full potential (synchronized) and DDR/667/800 is overkill?

    Should the memory and CPU be synchronized? If so, would that imply that DDR2/533 should be used?

    If not, would DDR2/800 CL5 be a better choice than DDR2/533 CL4?

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Chiles4,
    I'll have a look at all variants of the C2D. I'll also compare "your" pricing to those in Sweden. Probably interesting ... :( ... but depressing!

    Christer
     
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    Unfortunately so. Not only is stuff cheaper here but we also have Newegg...a PC part superstore with incredible prices.

    I'm with you Christer...I wouldn't know what to do with an Intel chip if it fell on my head. All the bus speeds confuse me.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Reading the Wikipedia article Intel Core 2 was interesting, especially the section on DDR2:

    In Sweden, a matched pair of 1024 MB PC4200 CL4 is priced at SEK 699 (~$100) compared to a matched pair of 1024 MB PC6400 CL5 which is priced at SEK 1399 (~$200).

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    Christer

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    Still reading the Wikipedia article, the table "Matched processor and RAM ratings" indicates that the two modules must run in dual channel mode. Otherwise, a single module of PC8500 is needed.

    Christer
     

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