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NVMe SSd driver.

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by cold iron, 2020/01/01.

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    cold iron

    cold iron Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Looking for any help to find a driver for W7 Pro to recognize an NVMe SSD. It's on an Intel i7 6 core with 32 gigs of ram.
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Look on the SSD maker's webpage for that model SSD.
     
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    cold iron Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    The MS web page says the fix has been discontinued and all ones need to do is upgrade to Windows 10!! right
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I don't know what you are talking about. I said to look on the SSD maker's web page for your SSD. Not on Microsoft's web page. And I see nothing about a fix being discontinued on the page Pete suggested.
     
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    It was peters link I was responding to, sorry.
    I did that a week ago, they don't have a driver it seems.
    I was hoping someone has the windows driver saved and could post it.

    At the very top of the page it say " keep windows updated" look in there.
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Thanks for clarifying.

    And now I see what you are saying about Pete's link. When you click on "Update Available", it says "This hotfix is no longer available". I can only guess they pulled it because they integrated this SSD support into a later update and W7 mainstream support ended nearly 5 years ago.

    Do you see the drive in the BIOS Setup Menu?
     
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    cold iron Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Yes, it shows in the BIOS and it also shows in W10.
    MS is killing W7 and will offer no help for it now.
    I have a lot of great proggys in my W7 OS and not wanting to
    try to get them to work in 10 at this time.
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    No. MS is not killing W7. They are finally just letting it go after it was superseded - twice.

    W10 came out 5 years ago! That is plenty of time for software developers to update their programs for W10, and for users to update their software. And it is up to the hardware makers, not Microsoft, to develop driver support for their newer hardware for legacy operating systems (and/or W10 support for their legacy hardware).

    We just cannot expect these hardware makers or software developers, including Microsoft to keep spending all these resources ($$$) on development, testing, providing, and maintaining all this legacy support when they get $0.00 in return on those investments. They aren't even investments. With investments, you expect some returns. These are straight out expenditures - throwing money down the drain.
     
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    cold iron Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I am not a new-be on putters, I started when it was DOS 2.0. I have used all of the OS MS built. I am so old that moss grows on me. I say XP os2 was the best operating system made to date. MS has to keep making a new system to make money when every machine has been updated the market is done. It's like making light bulbs if you build one that never burns out you will go broke. Yes, MS is killing W7 so we all have to buy W10. Then there will a W11 or W12. It's just a matter of time. Soon you will have to pay for all your updates for W10 or switch to Linux which I also know. And it's free, updates and all. Hay, thanks for helping me.
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Well, I got moss on me too. I started with computers years before DOS. And yes, MS has to keep making new products to make money. But Microsoft is not the sole - or even primary driving factor here. The hardware industry advances the state-of-the-art on their own terms and faster than Microsoft does. Look at how many years 64-bit was supported by the hardware industry before Windows and other software caught up!

    New hardware often requires new software to run it. And again, it is the hardware makers responsibility to ensure compatibility.

    I liked XP too. In fact, I liked it so much, I never went to Vista. I held out until I saw that W7 was better than XP, and that my new hardware needed W7. I can now say the same thing about W10. Forget W8 - that was a mistake. But W10 is the best Windows yet. No, it is not perfect. But it is more secure and performs better than than any previous version - especially when run on today's hardware.

    We'll see about W11 and W12. According to Microsoft, W10 is the last version. It will just keep improving and evolving and we will never need to buy a new version of Windows again - at least not until we replace our computer with a new one. And I'm okay with that.
    I don't see that happening. And part of that is because there is Linux and Microsoft knows that.
    Well, except I didn't really. What is the brand and model number of your SSD?
     
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    cold iron Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Sabrent. 1 TB. Just for fun, I pulled the cable's to all the HD's ran a w7 CD in the drive and tried to install w7 to the SSD.
    The install could not see the drive!! So, it looks like it will never work.
    Back to XP, I had a great wifi program worked better than anything I have ever seen to date, but it would never work in W7. Lots of very good proggys and hardware would not work in W7. Backward compatibility should prima facia when building a new OS.
    Your help was moral support. Thanks
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Would be nice, but no. History has shown that to be a bad idea. Way back when XP was being developed, big industry insisted XP support all their legacy hardware and software because these big corporations (Microsoft's biggest client base) did not want to go through the major expense again to retool, buy new computers, re-code all their custom software, retrain, etc. These were HUGE costs they went through when migrating from CP/M to DOS and then again to Windows 3.x and again to W95/98.

    So MS listened.

    But what happened is they discovered much of that legacy hardware and software was really insecure. It used insecure protocols and coding. It was not a problem before then because almost no one, except big business, had access to the Internet. But then affordable broadband to the home happened and exploded. And the bad guys moved in and Internet security became a nightmare.

    And who got blamed? Microsoft, of course - even though they tried to put AV code in XP, they were blocked by Congress and the EU because Norton, McAfee, CA, TrendMicro and the others whined and cried "monopoly" and that MS was trying to rule the world. They were but that's another story. MS was forced to remove that AV code because Norton, McAfee and the others claimed it was their job to stop the bad guys. We see how well that went - but again, another story.

    So beginning with earnest with Windows 7, Microsoft took the philosophy they were going to put security and support for current and future hardware first. And IMO, that is the right decision - and I'm a hardware guy. Microsoft knew the MS haters were going to blame them for any and everything anyway. So decided they would rather be blamed for failing to support unsafe legacy products than get blamed for the malicious actions of the bad guys.

    Notice how Congress, the EU, Norton, McAfee and the others have kept mum about MS putting anti-malware code in W8/W10? It's because they can't get the cat to let go their tongues because of all the egg on their faces.

    Again, it is important to remember that it is the hardware makers responsibility to produce drivers for their hardware - not Microsoft's. Windows is already 30+ million lines of code. If it included support for all the legacy hardware, it would be 2 or 3 or even more times bigger. It would also mean Windows would cost more too because it costs money to maintain those databases.

    Nobody likes to get rid of perfectly good hardware. But really, it is a fact of life. We did it with our old analog CRT TVs and monitors. We did it with 8-tracks and cassettes, reel-to-reels, stereo (2-channel) receivers, 386 based computers, 4:3 monitors, floppy disks, game consoles, dial telephones, old cell phones, and more.
     
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    Oh no we didn't ... :cool: ... any audiophile with some self respect has a reasonably high powered 2-channel system (preferrably class A or A/B but no digital c-r-a-p) to get the music flowing effortlessly from the high-end speakers!
     
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    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    LOL - Well, I did until a couple years go. But I confess I now have a nice Onkyo surround sound A/V receiver.

    My excuse is that my nearly 68 year old ears are not as discerning as they used to be - especially after years of very loud Yes!, Pink Floyd, ELP and others, not to mentions working 24 years on and around a military flight line.

    I am, excited, however, to see vinyl is making a come back! :)
     
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    At the risk of hijacking the thread, I have not long ago bought new pressings of Wish You Were Here and Dark Side Of The Moon. The old ones were a little bit "too worn". The master (basis for the negative engraving) is the same as the original, I can still hear the "clearing of someones throat" at the end of one of the tracks (don't recall which). I drive a pair of "budget" (can't afford the ones costing as much as as a family car) Bowers & Wilkins loudspeakers with a Rotel integrated amplifier. Before buying the Rotel, I did listen to the "new stuff" with class D power supplies. Maybe the specs look good on paper but it ends there ... :rolleyes: ... not a chance to compete!
     
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